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Everest Queue

Discussion in 'Personal' started by les25paul, May 25, 2019.

  1. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    Astonishing picture showing a recent queue for the summit of Mount Everest.

    And I thought the queue on Snowdon was bad some days. ;)

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  2. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

  3. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    There's so so so much wrong with climbing Everest, it makes me really sad.
    In a nutshell, the purity, reverence and symbolism of it has been and continues to be thoroughly desecrated in the name of point scoring, both by those who will to conquer her, and by the lands which straddle her.

    btw "Her" just happened when I wrote this post.
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  4. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Me too and while I can appreciate the appeal of going out into the wilderness and the peace and amazing sensation of climbing a mountain with noone else around I just don't get the appeal of this mass tourism mountaineering. It just seems so self-contradictory. Big word because I can't express it properly but I'm sure you know what I mean.
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  5. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    But correct, the local Tibetan name for Everest is Chomolungma which means something like "Mother Goddess of the World". It was called that long before a British surveyor called George Everest identified it as the World's highest peak in 1856.

    The Nepalis call "Her" Sagarmatha but I'm not sure what that means. In my opinion one of those names should be adopted, George Everest never even went to Chomolungma/Sagarmatha he only saw "Her" from a distance.
  6. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    It's the drive to do the best, simply in order to say "I am the best". For me, this makes the worst person, although maybe I'm just being contrary.
    The world of pro mountaineering supports an abhorrent (to me) streak of tick listing the top ten of the world's tallest peaks. It's a mindset that feeds itself, and makes for a self inflated circle of elite climbers who are happy to talk about the heights they achieved rather than the vistas they tasted. It's like sitting round a campfire-most people singing, eating, drinking, joking, snogging, contemplating whatever. And then two people sitting talking far later than anybody else about the camping kit they brought with them. The better the kit, the better the camper.
    The higher the mountain, the better the climber.
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  7. gainly

    gainly Senior commenter

    It looks horrific.

    I was lucky enough to visit Everest back in 1991 and climbed Kala Patar, from where you get the classic view of Everest. We went in January which is out of season so very quiet. I'm so glad I went then. On the day we climbed Kala Patar we didn't see anyone apart from our Sherpa guide and a rather grubby little boy who offered us a cup of tea at Gorak Shep.
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  8. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    "Everest has killed 7 people in as many days."

    When they fit airtight double glazing, they mean airtight.
  9. rachel_g41

    rachel_g41 Established commenter

    I think the Nepali version means pretty much the same, if I remember rightly something like mother of the universe.
  10. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    It means "wisdom of the sky"
    Actually if you Google it, it will tell you variously "forehead" or"head" " in the sky" but I have it from a Nepali speaker that there is an additional nuance to using the word "forehead" in Nepali which evades the more mainstream (maybe Western) translation, the forehead representing a questing surge towards intelligence and a place to store it-so-wisdom.
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  11. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    While browsing tourism info recently I saw places described not as beautiful, or interesting, or impressive but as instagrammable. Instagrammable.
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  12. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Like the A14 - only colder.
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  13. gainly

    gainly Senior commenter

    Actually George Everest had no connection to the mountain. He was surveyor general of India from 1830-1843, but had retired to England many years before it was identified by one of the Indian computers as the world's highest peak. (Computers were people who did calculations.)

    Sagarmatha means something like "one whose forehead touches the sky" but is a relatively new name adopted by the Nepalese government when they made the area a national park. I prefer the Tibetan name which is much older.
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  14. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    It's still f***ing steep.
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  15. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    ..and it's still hard to get to the summit on a pogo stick.
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  16. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    or on one of these...

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  17. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Isn't the internet wonderful

    I couldn't remember what space hoppers were called so I typed into google..

    "What are those orange bouncy things called"

    ...and voila
  18. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    What can you see from the top? More bloody mountains? What's the point?

    My back garden is far more picturesque.
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  19. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    You can see what can be seen from the top of Everest online these days, as we have seen how picturesque your garden is, @grumpydogwoman, and thank you for posting pictures of it. There is no point whatsover in anyone taking the risk of breaking their neck by scaling either Everest or your garden fence to study the view.

    It's all a bit like having the name of the right school or university on your CV, ain't it? You can go the the very best that money can buy and actually achieve sod all, but if you can put them on your CV it might mean something to someone; and in this age of BS achievements and award ceremonies for being able to wipe your arrse by yourself, why not add Everest to the list as well?
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  20. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Virtually every British back garden is more picturesque than litter-strewn Everest or the view therefrom.
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