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Ever been bullied or made to feel so ill you ended up off with stress or resigned? Please read.

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by dht46, Feb 15, 2015.

  1. drek

    drek Star commenter

    Since it starts at the ‘top’ of the ***** mountain I think for all the grievances caused by ministers at the dfe, OFSTEd chiefs and their minions and Headteachers who undergo their ‘specialist’ training......
    somebody needs to be powerful enough to point the finger at these culprits, and bring them down the way they do to ordinary but hardworking and courageous individuals all over the country.
    Damian Hinds at least put staff wellbeing and allowed us to breathe for a little while.
    I’m not sure what is going to happen next but if this was climate change data I was looking at, then based on the effects of previous changes I’m afraid the prediction for workload and bullying does not look very good......
  2. drek

    drek Star commenter

    Looking at the tes article about OFSTEd, there was a quote from former OFSTEd chief that speaks clearly about the abusive personality traits exhibited by people essentially supposed to be role models for educators and young people!
    Regarding non inspection of homework here is a Quote from the article below “By contrast, from other, predictable, quarters emerged only fury. Chris McGovern, chair of the Campaign for Real Education (CARE) and a former Ofsted inspector to boot, told The Sunday Times: “This is a retrograde step… Many teachers will take the easy way out and not set homework from now on… This has been done to appease teachers who are complaining about their workload…”


    do we need OFSTED inspectors........ No..... looks like his version of ‘care’ needs serious inspection!

    Mcgovern is going to give some students ‘real education’ some of whom might go on to become teachers and sadly then realise that this person was just after their slice of the education funding pot.
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  3. caress

    caress Occasional commenter

    I was bullied in one of my placements as a probationer. The faculty head would undermine me in front of a class by pulling me aside before a class and chastising me for cleaning the board after a lesson (a one-off oversight). I immediately apologised and offered to clean the board, which she refused only to storm into my class five minutes later and shout at me, then drag me out to clean the board. She would actively ignore disrespectful behaviour from students towards me and various other bullying and unpleasantries until I dreaded going into work. She finished off by failing me on my placement, the university was baffled as they had observed me multiple times and found me excellent in crits etc. They finally disregarded her failing me, said that there must have been a "clash of personalities" (all one-sided as I was always professional and polite towards her, and wouldn't sink to her level. The university subsequently passed me on my course and moved me to another school to complete my training. I advised them not to send any more student teachers to that school. It was over a decade ago but it still stings to remember.
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  4. elfinamerica

    elfinamerica New commenter

    Happened to me and another teacher at a Prison where we worked in the education department. Was a coven of malicious, vindictive, backstabbing, lying horrible women (one of whom was a practicing Christian!) *The inmates were godly compared to them too. The only way to deal with bullying is by writing letters to management and HR with dates and times, keep the union in the loop and confide in people outside of work. Don't let these people gain any ammunition from you remember action = reaction - they thrive on it! why oh why are these types of women (always seems to be cliques of women) allowed to work in education/SLT??? It's like they are struggling for the queen bee crown :p
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  5. elfinamerica

    elfinamerica New commenter

    It's always women against other women-forget sisterhood!
  6. elfinamerica

    elfinamerica New commenter

    There are lots of us but remember, some won't dare speak out.
  7. AlwaysAdaptable

    AlwaysAdaptable New commenter

    I am going through that now even though I am going to retire in 6 months. What does the bullying head get out of it? Sick at the moment due to WRS. I was happy to finish on a high note but the head had different ideas.
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    SEBREGIS Lead commenter

    I hate to say this, but ITS BEEN AN ACKNOWLEDGED FACT FOR YEARS THAT BULLYING IS ENDEMIC IN THE TEACHING PROFESSION. Please excuse the capitals but a new thread on this is like 'Headline: bears discovered to be defecating in the woods.'

    Why does it continue? Because even though we know it, we choose to do nothing about it.

    We're told that education is important and that we ruin the children's life chances if we do something drastic like strike. Of course, that's a bit like saying 'yes I know the pit props are rotten but if you don't go down into the unsafe mine, who is going to get the coal we need to heat our homes?'

    If schools were regularly pumping toxins through the air conditioning, we would call that 'a health and safety issue'. The current system is destroying lives and sometimes - actually all too often - ending them. But we willingly accept that because we have swallowed the line that this is a vocation, not a job.

    There USED to be a method for dealing with this - it was called the Trades Union movement. But it requires all teachers to join it, and all teachers to back it. Without that - threads like this just highlight how mad the situation is, but don't move us a step closer to humane working hours and sensible management policies.
  9. install

    install Star commenter

    You make the fatal error of using the word 'profession'. It isn't imo. Sorry. The answer is One Union imho. But some hts/slt would also need to modernize their fixed mindset and start working in the classroom too as part of a team.

    Indeed, if only all hts got together more and fought for teachers more.
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  10. rosievoice

    rosievoice Star commenter

    Unfortunately, some HTs consider teachers as expendable.

    SEBREGIS Lead commenter

    One HTs view, as reported to me by a union caseworker:

    "My policy is to hire young teacher, burn them out, then replace them."

    But then another HT referred to pupils as 'quantifiable income streams'.

    I thank God that I'm working in a school where the HT put staff and pupil well being very high on his list. But its not just individuals. The system has changed and too many more responsibilities have been added. Classes are bigger, reporting happens more frequently.

    Imagine it in a science fiction setting: "The life support machine no longer works as it should. But you can't turn it off because there's no back-up." We can't change schools because we can't stop teaching children.So we keep throwing teachers in to grease the gears.
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  12. install

    install Star commenter

    It is sad. Some HTs see their pay as the ultimate goal - nothing less.
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    SEBREGIS Lead commenter

    The REALLY sad thing is that when schools DO say 'enough is enough' and put in draconian behaviour measures - it works. The students can learn, the teachers can teach, and the few who really want to disrupt either adapt or leave. I've seen this approach work.

    I was working in a school several years ago where a clear, no nonsense behaviour policy was adapted. One warning and then you were removed. On the first day, more than eighty of the students were marched into a gym and sat in silence doing work from text books. Next day sixty, and so on. Soon the school was just dealing with a regular hard core of about ten little darlings.

    Unfortunately, there was no stomach to do any more with these students, who needed to be excluded or moved on. They continued to wreck every lesson they were in, so the policy looked like a failure - it focused on quite well behaved students who were making the odd slip up, but ignoring real problem. Parents complained, and the dreaded OFSTED name was mentioned. The policy was dropped in favour of 'just send them to your HOD' and soon the place was as awful as before.

    OFSTED actually don't mind you excluding students, as long as the correct steps have been followed. As so often, they get used as a bogeyman by management who don't want to spend their time sorting out behaviour. Its just - sad.
  14. alicewonders

    alicewonders New commenter

    Has anyone ever heard the classic lines. “It’s all in your head. They didn’t mean it that way.” A guaranteed way to make anxiety worse.
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  15. FriarLawrence

    FriarLawrence Occasional commenter

    "But that's all normal. Everyone gets anxious about that stuff!"

    Yes, but GENIUS, the problem is one of degree. Everyone DOES get anxious about that stuff. But that stuff makes my brain turn into a squirming snake-filled strobe-lit nightmare prison, causes me to stop breathing, and makes my heart triphammer like a mouse having a coke overdose. See the difference?
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  16. marymoocow

    marymoocow Star commenter

    It is 7 years since I walked out of my school never to return and ultimately teaching. I love my new life and job. There is bullying in all areas of life but never anything as vindictive as teaching. It has made me a stronger person in the end, I stand up for anyone I see being bullied and report it. We are encouraged to do so in my job and the bully is more likely to be disciplined and moved on than the victim, unlike teaching.
  17. rosievoice

    rosievoice Star commenter

    Nice to know that some organisations actually do something about this form of workplace abuse.
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  18. vomitingvera

    vomitingvera New commenter

    Yep. Individual grievance and collective grievance. Head then went sick to never return so never answered to grievances. Several years later and I’m still traumatised.
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  19. big_grey_hound

    big_grey_hound New commenter

  20. big_grey_hound

    big_grey_hound New commenter

    I've been off since Christmas due to a bullying Head and I know I am the next teacher they are driving out (6 teachers over 45 on UPS in the last 6 years gone and it's a small school). Got Union involved but nothing will change and ultimately I'll have to move on even though I have given 10 years loyal service.
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