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Discussion in 'Personal' started by cariadwch, Apr 9, 2019.
Nice to have the choice.
DUP aren't the Conservatives or you would have Labour/SDLP.
Is it proportional representation? Any openly pro Remain party including fudgey 'oh we are Remain but we can’t openly say so for fear of upsetting our UKIPY voters who still think Brexit is a good idea' parties.
Yes, using the d'Hondt system and voting for a party rather than a specific candidate.
Well, should be interesting then. Lib dems, change Uk and labour should be claiming pro Remain votes. Tories, UKIP and Brexit party can claim Brexit votes. Kind of like another referendum eh?
If we Brexit, who we have sent to the Eu-Parl will be irrelevant.
If we Remain, it makes more sense to have MEPs who are prepared to work constructively within the EU-Parl for the best interests of all UK citizens. So, anyone voting for a spoiler like Farage who will contribute nothing, charter his private plane and draw his big salary just to sit there shouting 'Freedom' in that inane way we've seen him do, must be still in self-harm mode.
You cannot vote for individuals in the European Parliament elections, only for parties.
I have no idea who my current MEP is.
I shall spoil my vote. I wash my hands of it.
In an extension, all UK MEPs are likely to be forced to vote with the majority. The Commission already have plans to avoid disruption by MEPs
To paraphrase Edmund Burke
All that is needed for fools and charlatans to be elected is for good men to spoil their papers, Or abstain.
My MEP is Diane Dodds. I shall not be voting for her ahead of non-DUP unionists this time either.
You won't have a single MEP (unless in Northern Ireland), you will have a group of MEPs. For example, the South-East of England currently has 10 MEPs: 4 from UKIP, 3 from the Conservatives, and one each from Labour, the Greens and the Lib Dems.
For me, in will be the Lib-Dems, as they are unequivocally for remaining in the EU.
For london the main party wasLabour+ 9 MEP and 1 tory
Never mind they will be able to earn thier nice earner of €191,808 less €6,611 tax and insurance.
Labour definitely wont get my vote if i have to cast one!
So in theory if Farage was to take part and 17 million voted for his party he should have a good number?
As I say in my other post. At present, we aren't fit to be a member of the EU. Britain can't show itself to be a democratic nation that respects a referendum. Why would the EU want such a country as a member?
Are any other of the twenty seven countries members despite refusing to respect the democracy of their people?
Would we be happy to be a member of such a club if we were a democratic country knowing we are joining an organisation allowing undemocratic countries to join? Would we join an organisation that allows members with no respect for their people to join?
At present we'd be better applying to join some international organisation made up of dictatorships. Like-minded countries to ours.
Off the top of my head the Netherlands, France and the Republic of Ireland all took two goes to ratify EU Treaties like Maastricht, Amsterdam, Nice and Lisbon. Now it looks like our turn to do the same.
Single European Act 1986 - Rep. of Ireland and Denmark ratified it via referendums
Maastricht Treaty - the Danes rejected the treaty by referendum, before re-submitting it and having it passed. The French voted to ratify it by referendum 50.8%-49.2%
Treaty of Nice 2001 - the Irish rejected it in a referendum, before re-submitting it amid a massive propaganda campaign. It passed 60-40.
The EU Constitution was abandoned after being rejected in referendums in France and the Netherlands
2009 the Lisbon Treaty once again needed two goes to get past the Irish.