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EU - X000000 : Gulf - 0

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Vladimir, Oct 28, 2015.

  1. Vladimir

    Vladimir Senior commenter

    Simple question: why aren't the Gulf States taking any Syrian refugees. Literally, zero!
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    And why is Europe getting so much criticism for not taking them all in (and everyone else who wants to hitch a ride in), when these rich Gulf States receive virtually no criticism? I'm genuinely interested in knowing!
     
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  2. Treefayre2

    Treefayre2 Established commenter

    Would you want to live in Saudi?
     
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  3. xmal

    xmal Established commenter

    Because they don't want their lands turned into a war zone.
     
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  4. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Our leaders are whimps and will not admit the true cost (not money) in taking them in.
     
  5. Treefayre2

    Treefayre2 Established commenter

    After the ebb....
     
  6. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    Because they don't want their society to be fundamentally transformed (and not for the better)?
     
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  7. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Also perhaps because living in Saudi might be even worse than living in Syria. I'd rather trust a leaky boat over the Med than chance my arm (and hand and major organs) in Saudi.
     
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  8. Treefayre2

    Treefayre2 Established commenter

    Europe will soon change. I'm sure those Syrian (and other economic migrants) will feel well at home in the future European emirates:=)
     
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  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

  10. hermitcrabbe

    hermitcrabbe Established commenter

    This is what the bleeding heart liberals do not realize or are unwilling to admit. I guess I will have to get a leaky boat and move - the trouble is - where?
     
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  11. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

  12. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Why the criticism on the one hand and lack thereof on the other?

    Well, because the EU probably puts hospitality and generosity of spirit as something of a core value whereas nobody expect the Spanish Inquisition. Or rather nobody expects the Saudis to do anything humanitarian because that would be a first.

    WE certainly can't criticise them because we don't want to upset them.
     
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  13. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Ah so Israel is bravely resisting 'national suicide' [really? fascinating level of debate] but oh lets beat on the Gulf States for doing exactly the same thing.

    And I'm fairly sure the Gulf States have been doing their bit for refugees in the first-border nations.
     
  14. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    I haven't beat on the Gulf States at all. Their policy, based on realism and national self-interest, makes more sense than the EU's (if the EU has a refugee policy other than what Angela Merkel wills at any given moment).

    And I don't believe that Israel has any obligation to take in 'refugees', most of whom are fit, military age young men, from a country which has been trying to destroy it since 1948. Further, I don't accept that an implication from the LA Times or anyone else that Israel has such an obligation is made in good faith.
     
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  15. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Well, we don't make policy for the Israelis or Saudis. But, if they won't help the needy (for whatever reason of their own), it just means there are more for the EU to rescue.
     
  16. Vladimir

    Vladimir Senior commenter

  17. Vladimir

    Vladimir Senior commenter

    As a genuine refugee fleeing from war and all the evils that come with it, yes! Why not? It's a rich, warm country that could provide for me and it would even suit my religion if I were a Syrian Muslim, so integration would be easy. The key word here is 'genuine'. I doubt an economic migrant would want to because he would be more interested in the freebies and push-over governments of the EU.
     
  18. Memphismojo

    Memphismojo Established commenter

    At least not to the general public.
     
  19. Memphismojo

    Memphismojo Established commenter

    The latter I believe.

    To one of the refugee camps? Mind you, assuming you are a man, you would wouldn't be short of Syrian women complaining to you about being abandoned by their men.

     
  20. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    I do get where you're coming from Art... I've expressed my confusion over issues such as these elsewhere and indeed I've posted about the Gulf States myself on OldOpinion.

    I'm not saying you are beating on them, just this thread in general. And maybe they deserve to be beat on. I have no grievance either way. My point is... according to my understanding... refugees are supposed to seek asylum in the first safe country they arrive at. Well Jordan and Turkey seem to qualify. Lebanon and Iraq maybe less so. But Israel is a safe country. Sure Syria's government has not been friendly [to say the least] towards Israel but that doesn't mean her people aren't. After all we have Iranian refugees and their families here. Far as I know the overwhelming majority are settled well, the government of Iran hasn't shifted their liking for us.

    As for your final line.Israel is just a country, open to criticism, censure and praise just like any other.
     

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