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English Tutors NTP

Discussion in 'Private tutors' started by Thorntonsj, Sep 2, 2020.

  1. Thorntonsj

    Thorntonsj New commenter

    Hi all,

    Putting our little tutoring business through its paces and branching out into the NTP. We would love to hear from any skilled and experienced English practitioners, keen to join our friendly band of tutors. KS 2,3 & 4 needed. We are based in the North West of England but teach throughout the country and Internationally, online. Our platform is secure, has been running for the past 6 months and is already well resourced.

    Interested? I will provide both safeguarding and tech training for you and our students. So, no need to be a Technological Wizard, just an inspiring teacher. Note, we are not an agency, just an outstanding collective, looking to draw in new talent.

    silversnapdragon and bijalc like this.
  2. bijalc

    bijalc New commenter


    I am interested :)

    Please could you tell me more?
  3. shakes1616

    shakes1616 Established commenter

    There are thousands of English practitioners/teachers or people who think they can teach English.
  4. cwilson1983

    cwilson1983 Occasional commenter

    Genuine question, what are the advantages of signing up to your agency/collective as opposed to continuing to work independently?

    What is in it for you? Commission rate?

  5. Thorntonsj

    Thorntonsj New commenter

    Good question!

    Firstly, the NTP is not allowing individual tutors to apply. So, that's not an option. They are taking single names, in order to to pass on to established companies or , cooperatives. It will be these single companies who who will be responsible for the contract, mandatory compliance preparations, Insurance, training and supporting their colleagues, throughout. Not to mention, fulfilling the strenuous research demands, which will require lots of data collection and time investment from the host company.

    In a nutshell - many more hours of work than the standard tutoring job. We have already done much of this initial work. Including setting up and beginning to resource an additional 21 electronic classrooms. So, yes, we will probably be wanting funding for this - and all of the school wide, assessment and other resources, we will require.

    I've always combined with other great tutors, when the workload increases . I believe it's never a fantastic idea to have a generalists, when a specialist is much better. More expensive - and justifiably so. The satisfaction & results of our kid's attest to this.

    Ordinarily , its a hugely rewarding job. It will be even more so, when supporting our lowest attaining children when they really need it.
  6. cwilson1983

    cwilson1983 Occasional commenter

    Thanks for your reply, but you haven't really answered any of my questions.

    I don't understand why you are advertising on here then.

    Why would an independent tutor require an intermediary? Most will already be signed up to several websites or agencies.

    This may benefit a tutor agency, but what are the advantages for the tutor?

    Based on what data?

    Relevance to my query?

    Again, I'm not sure how this is relevant to what I asked.

    Best of luck anyway.
  7. Thorntonsj

    Thorntonsj New commenter

    Thank you for your reply.

    In succinct terms, you want to know what the tutor - solely - 'gets out of it?'


    1. Access - to a very worthwhile scheme that will, hopefully, benefit our most disadvantaged children. Usually, a prime motivator for every good tutor? Single tutors can't enrol - hence they have to join an agency or established collective.

    2. There's a lot of work initially and, we suppose, more going forward, for the Lead of this host collective.

    We have just done the work - days of it! Also, we have attended the NTP meetings, that clearly specify an administrative onus, not dissimilar to that of a school. For the individual tutor, the groundwork is done and the colleague can concentrate on enjoying their teaching job.

    3. A steady roll of, a combined, 500 student minimum.

    4. The chance to collaborate with other tutors and schools, who may have experiences, and continued work, that would enrich your own business, going forward.

    Thank you for the good wishes, 'C.Wilson.1983,' and to you .
  8. shakes1616

    shakes1616 Established commenter

    Is this a job offer? What is it all about a gain please?
  9. br0wnsugar

    br0wnsugar Occasional commenter

    It sounds vague in parts. I am looking at tutoring and I am an experienced English teacher who has covered most exam boards etc but not sure about this route.
    In fact, it sounds like an agency working to recruit tutors and present to their clients a 'team' of tutors rather than individuals making the inquiry. Commission is somewhere within the mire.
  10. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

    It's about the government's National Tutoring Programme which is supposed to start in November. Individual tutors can't apply, so joining them is one possible way you could become involved. I'm sure there'll be lots of other organisations bidding to get involved and get a slice of the cash. I fear that much of the money (£350 million I think) will be wasted on bureaucracy and middle men and not much will actually benefit either pupils or tutors.

    Of course, judging by the government's record so far, there's a good chance it may not happen at all.
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  11. Thorntonsj

    Thorntonsj New commenter

    We aren't an agency, 'Br0wnsugar'. Just a collective. We will be advertising for 'employees' in TES, in the appropriate place. and drawing on the tutor list, from the NTP. We're networking and gaining a sense of the market for one or two senior collaborations. Most of our local groups are so over-subscribed, that we all, legitimately, do this when the work increases. Similar to builders sub-contracting, when constructing more than one house. It also allows each tutor to be independently professional, in their specialist area, whilst having one tuition school take care of all, the compliance and paperwork.

    It is 'happening.' Tuition Schools must submit their bids by Friday. The approved list is published on October 31st. Schools will be able to collaborate with these 'approved schools from the 1st of November.
  12. br0wnsugar

    br0wnsugar Occasional commenter

    Thank you for clarifying the purpose and service you provide. This indeed makes it sound more attractive and clearer however, the co-ordination of the paperwork necessary that you outline above sounds as if it comes with a fee? Would this be a fair assumption and if so at what percentage?
  13. br0wnsugar

    br0wnsugar Occasional commenter

    Any ideas how I can join the tutor list via NTP? I've looked on the NTP website but unable to see how to join their list.
  14. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

  15. Thorntonsj

    Thorntonsj New commenter

    Absooutely! No one is keen on doing that amount of work for free. It's budgeted for within the bid. Separate to any session costs. These are simple set up and running costs, which are part of the sum needed to set up, expand, and keep things running. They are kept as low as possible, but are there. Think of the cost of the average MIS, which NTP requires.

    To me, session costs belong to whomever plans, teaches & assess them.

    Note, if you do register for the 'list,' your details will be given to a range of providers, including agencies, both in UK & overseas. They will obviously work on an employer - employee basis. With the resulting, relatively low fees. This will give less responsibility but likely, lower pay. The advantage of joining a collective, is to have some autonomy over where, when and how you work. Plus, you can negotiate your own fees.
  16. br0wnsugar

    br0wnsugar Occasional commenter

  17. br0wnsugar

    br0wnsugar Occasional commenter

    So joining the collective would be a viable option. Thank you. I will look at NTP applications on line and see where it goes.
  18. Kateray1

    Kateray1 Occasional commenter

    I work privately and for an agency and they have just sent the link to the training company to do this.

    I’m quite full at present but could fit in around another 5 hours during the week days.

    the training is going to benefit my CPD and refresh current thinking On a range of topics.

    I will only take on 1-1 or 3 in a group though.

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