1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Hi Guest, welcome to the TES Community!

    Connect with like-minded education professionals and have your say on the issues that matter to you.

    Don't forget to look at the how to guide.

    Dismiss Notice

Employability skills, Jobs and careers advice and in Art and Design

Discussion in 'Art and design' started by Griffiths28, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. Is it JUST me, or does there seem to be no hope for our students who take the Art and Design Courses we teach today?
    I mean I as a student lecturer in a Collage, now am finding it hard enough as it is to find a part time job teaching knowing exactly what i want to do let alone a full time job. As for the students I teach, half of them have no idea what they are going to do when they leave College let alone what they could use their art skills for. Tattoo artist, Fashion designer and Interior designer come up alot when asked what their ambitions are, but not one of them can tell me what exactly they need to get into that job. (or get a basic job in a supermarket to start off with)
    Students come to College with little numeracy or literacy skills from highschool and we are told we have to bring them up to the level they SHOULD of left school at. BUT at these institutions the main onbjections appear to be...fight for their retention, not for the learner's benefit but for our budgets but what do we give them back? Do we really prepare them for a brighter future? Can we honestly say that we give them advice about employment opportunities? Some of them need straight talking out of doing art, some of them need praise and encouragement but can we say that we are doing right by them? If we are to encourage learners to leave further education with qualifications and a sence of achievement surely they should be able to get a job at the end of it? There are career centres in most colleges but all they do is hand you a bunch of pamphlets to read or photocopies and send you on your way. In my opinion they are informal and are not very helpful when it comes to careers in an artistic community.
    So i ask you, wide world of T.E.S readers... what do you do with your learners to teach them about employment, skills they will need and achievenents they will have to accomplish and set their goals upon for their future?
    Look forward to hearing your thoughts [​IMG]
  2. artcrisis

    artcrisis New commenter

    There is a great need for teachers of art, craft and design to understand the need for careers advice in the subject. This is backed up by OFSTED findings. NSEAD have an excellent careers section on their website, I am surprised that many of the teachers I meet don't use this with their students.
  3. surly this is the part were art, craft and design teachers use all those contacts they have built up themselves in developing their own careers in the arts, inviting former graduates from universities to talk about how they survived as an artist, designer or craftsperson when leaving college/university. get them in schools, i fear that as art teachers and educators we cannot leave the educating of pupils about careers in the arts to anyone but ourselves. Your right about the photocopying information and drab resources for careers, I worked for Connexions previous to training as a teacher, and their over all careers advice was shoddy if not misleading most of the time, simply fining any course that was close to compatible with the young person to simply get them off the NEET list...
  4. What concerns me when I read the posts here, as a long serving teacher, is the lack of decent, good quality written English and spelling by teachers. How can we expect our students to develop good English skills when we are not proficient ourselves?
  5. I think what you need to do, is think back to when you were there age, Did you really know what you want to do? I know I didn't, nothing has changed really. I think the amount of employment guidance students can get is worlds apart to what I personally received at there age. We were sat at a computer, clicked on a few things and out pop jobs that suited you. Total garbage. The truth today is that students have to make decisions and are made to feel like the decisions are final. There is no flexibility in education, training or employment and all the students are on a conveyor belt... hurry.. decide. O too late... your a waster claiming dole. All the students I teach aren't wasters, they are just teenagers no different to any of us and are just trying to find something they are good at.

    I have worked for nearly ten years now as a freelance illustrator and have only recently trained as a teacher. Its such a vital thing at that age to open their eyes to the careers you can have within the creative industries. It is also good to explain that to succeed and find work you need to have your heart in it and your REALLY want to do it. I talk often about jobs I'm doing, the pitfalls of illustrating (clients, promotion etc), it is powerful tool to engage and give them a little direction and belief.

    After all, yes it's tough out there, but there are still plenty of opportunities out there, not just at university but also in the workplace. We have had a few students go on to apprenticeships developing skills in Photography and Graphic design. Other's are deciding to just get a job elsewhere, I just wish there was a greater flexibility for people to move in and out of education later in life.

    There just isn't enough purposeful links with education and the workplace, which is such a shame.

    And as for the last comment, this is a forum not a english exercise.
  6. darkness

    darkness New commenter

    Career advice in schools in general is plain shoddy. Most secondaries have a career advisor, trouble is often the 1 appointment the students get comes way too late, often after they have already selected their choices, I would advocate they start when kids are in year 7.

    You tell a career advisor you are doing art and watch the response. Considering it is a very large industry you would think they would have more helpful information, but instead the look is rather dismissive. Even a question posed 'Isn't there anything else you would like to do?' How off putting.

    The other issue is what is promoted within schools too. This can depend on the type of staff. I find increasingly more and more D&T specialists taking art, but then I also find things like fashion design and interior design promoted more and more. A link there perhaps.

    A reform of art education later on is needed in my view to not only focus on what they do currently but also to look at the creative industries as full as possible. It doesn't need to take a massive chunk of time, but at least give out the many options.

    Everything we have has to be designed and created by someone, someone designs the stuff, and not always those with design backgrounds, those who went through the arts routes are often found to be far more creative and outside the box thinkers as artists tend to think about the way to do something after it has been thought out, designers tend to look at what they have, see the limitations and work within the parameters. I know these are sweeping generalisations, but this is my experience anyway.

    Just in general I think we are failing students when it comes to guidance no matter what the subject. Look how many go to Uni on courses they never really wanted to do in the first place.

    I will never shake off 1 interview of a bloke this year who wanted to do a course in a Uni and never got in to any of his choices. He ended up doing a completely unrelated course at another. How on earth one can make such a leap I don't know, but clearly he had no idea in general what he was going to do having not got a place.

Share This Page