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EIS - Workplace bullying - Conference get together.

Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by a19pb, Apr 28, 2009.

  1. With the annual get together coming up, would in not be good if the problem of workplace bullying in Scotland's schools was addressed and strategies put in place to both educate their members about how to recognise bullying and how to tackle it.
    They know that the existing procedures do not work and they should be fighting to change these proceedures. In particular, all investigations into bullying accusations should be done by completely independant bodies and those who investigate should be knowledgeable about how people with traits associated with narcissistic and/or antisocial personality disorders can manipulate those around them to support bullying and target more competent individuals.
    The status quo where members are encouraged to accept bullying as the norm is not acceptable.
    Regardless of individual cases, where there is a bullying problem, there are indicators which the EIS could both gather and make information available to members.
    Staff turnover figures, ideally broken down into departments
    Sickness levels
    Reasons given for leaving employment (this could be requested from members in confidence so that they can be honest and anonymous)
    Lots of rules for staff, all staff emails and staff being encouraged to find fault with each other.
    Teachers do not expect to be bullied and believe that if they are that the system/union will protect them. Often this is so far from the truth as to be extremely dangerous.

     
  2. With the annual get together coming up, would in not be good if the problem of workplace bullying in Scotland's schools was addressed and strategies put in place to both educate their members about how to recognise bullying and how to tackle it.
    They know that the existing procedures do not work and they should be fighting to change these proceedures. In particular, all investigations into bullying accusations should be done by completely independant bodies and those who investigate should be knowledgeable about how people with traits associated with narcissistic and/or antisocial personality disorders can manipulate those around them to support bullying and target more competent individuals.
    The status quo where members are encouraged to accept bullying as the norm is not acceptable.
    Regardless of individual cases, where there is a bullying problem, there are indicators which the EIS could both gather and make information available to members.
    Staff turnover figures, ideally broken down into departments
    Sickness levels
    Reasons given for leaving employment (this could be requested from members in confidence so that they can be honest and anonymous)
    Lots of rules for staff, all staff emails and staff being encouraged to find fault with each other.
    Teachers do not expect to be bullied and believe that if they are that the system/union will protect them. Often this is so far from the truth as to be extremely dangerous.

     
  3. By which I mean to say - Not everything in this profession is a result of bullying.

    A far more pressing concern is the implementation of CfE, when no clear guidelines for what departments are expected to produce in terms of course plans, or with any guidelines of pupil progression.

    Your demands amount to little more than collecting information for the sake of it. What good will departmental staff turnover figures be to make life better for educators? I've left five departments in the last three years. I stayed in one for four weeks and another for five. What does this tell you?
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    A considerable number of the motions to be debated at the AGM are centred on CfE. The motions should be out in schools as the date has just passed for amendments.
    A substantial number of the motions focus on areas which can be the root cause of bullying in schools or are the major causes of teacher stress.
    Any EIS member is free to propose a motion for AGM, perhaps the OP could consider proposing one next year.
     
  5. The issue is so important, especially in these times of change, that the senior people in the unions should be acknowledging that they are not able within the current framework of procedures and employment law, to protect their members in bullying situations.
    You mention CfE - consultation? open discussion ?, transparent ? -- We all know it is a total mess but will be pushed through regardless. There are so many problems, particularly in secondary that we all know will not be fixed. Valid informed comment is being ignored and teachers are all being set up to fail. THe union should recognise this and insist on real consultation which is both transparent and honest.
    Re what the EIS can easily do :-
    By firstly doing what they can to help members understand actually how workplace bullies operate then their members will be immediately better placed to counter the damage they cause.

    THe EIS know the problem schools and the individuals within these schools who cause the problems yet their inaction allows these people to continually re-offend. By making raw information available and using the bigger picture when dealing with individuals who are being bullied then they would be doing a better job than they are right now.
    It seems to me that the EIS, the GTCS and the LA's are far too close and members interests are sacraficed to expedite closure. Targets suffer badly and the bullies revel in their victory. The more 'not proven' cases the bullies 'win' the more they understand how ineffective the procedures are at exposing them the more risks they take and they end up untouchable.
    THe EIS should be fighting for change to make the procedures effective.

     
  6. This conference is going to cost a lot of money. Will it actually benefit any membersor is it simply a social event to pat each other on the back ? How many people who hold office at the GTCS will be there? Does anyone know the answer ?
    Workplace bullying and what the EIS should be doing to tackle it should be at the top of the agenda as this could make a big difference to a lot of teachers in Scotland.
    <h3>Unions</h3>That thread is worth a look - its a bit like ratemyunion.com
     
  7. morrisseyritual

    morrisseyritual New commenter

    PaladinStand - I pray you never suffer the surreal and shocking experience of workplace bullying in a school. If you did you would be less adolescent in your reaction to any attempts to discuss and/or deal with the issue.
     
  8. From the article above, at least the SSTA are making noises, unfortunately they don't have the membership to beas effective as the EIS could be if they got their heads out of the sand and worked for their members interests rather than looking after the union machine.

    The conference is part way through - Will workplace bullying even have been mentioned?


     
  9. Yes,Yes, Yes! I was abismally failed in a bullying situation, by EIS, now being bullied again though more subtly. It is making me very ill. am on the verge of capability. With NASUWT now
    lets see?
    PS have posted a thread on the economics of bullying older teachers. Firstime doing this.some feedback might be useful.
    bettybloo
     
  10. Yes this should be done. think of how much money could be saved on sickness absence alone as the bullied teacher will no doubt become unwell due to the stresses they are submitted to. This happened to me. The EIS was worse than useless. Ihad to leave that post which was the intention of the bullying. It involved the HT and another colleague. What a waste of money that could have been spent in the school.
     
  11. The unions seem to be totally disinterested in bullying. I cant agree more with your analysis. the unions particularly the EIS, are far too cautious with their money. They could all get together and stamp on this evil serpent.What about a bit of pulling togethera bit of old fashioned collective action. Is that socialism by another name?
     

  12. The EIS suggest that they are going to da a survey ---- Do they not know the extent or do they not want their membership to know?
    When one teacher is bullied out, there will have been several others damaged by the bullying behaviours. Even those who are manipulated to work with the bully will be suffer stress as eventually they will realise that they have been an accomplice in something extremely nasty and life destroying.
    The people who fail to speak out against the behaviour because they know that if they are seen to support a bullied colleague, they will be next.
    Then there are all those NQT's and supply staff -- do they speak out. If they did would they get a job?
    The EIS needs a serious reality check -- THey know the scale of the problems and they know the shortcomings of their union.. THeir staff aren't traines, they don't even tell their membership that they have a Anti Bullying and Harassment Policy Document or that other than the suggested spirit and intention of the document being good, the practicality of challenging infringments against members has absolutely no teeth.
    They spend their money having a giant party each year, they hardly even talk the talk and as for walking the walk -- few have the training even if the will was there.
    No the different sectors -- as Dominie suggested -- CfE, every secondary teacher knows that it is the latest Emperors New Clothes. While in primary, what is being asked might make some sense. People naturally are interested in what they are being asked to implement, naturally, primary teachers will not be making much of a fuss about what Secondary teachers are being asked to do.
    By whatever means, the EIS should be working with the other unions with a common goal of diong what is best for their members as well as the children. They should not be in bed with the LA's nor the GTCS.
    FInally -- We see on these forums, glimpses of the abuse that members suffer, most won't make it here and they will be destroyed privately just like what has been happenning for years.
    The EIS should be a powerful union that effectively protects the interests of its members. Instead its ...

     
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  14. Same old, same old? Or worse even?
     

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