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Editing the WIKI dyslexia article

Discussion in 'Special educational needs' started by dolfrog, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

    Hi All

    for the last month or so I have been editing the WIKI dyslexia article. I had no idea how long it would take, as I am now only half way to completing the task hopefully.

    The main Dyslexia Article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia was really

    unnavigable, and full of unsupported opinions.

    So the first step was to find citations for the existing content, and match the

    content of existing citations to the article.

    The next step was to summarise the main artilce and add new sub article for more

    deatiled information regarding more specific dyslexia issues.

    The new sub articles include.

    Dyslexia research


    Dyslexia: Orthography


    History of developmental dyslexia


    Theories of dyslexia


    Genetic research into dyslexia


    Brain scan research into dyslexia


    Management of dyslexia


    Managing dyslexia: alphabetic orthography


    Category:Dyslexia support by country


    some additional articles which seem to have been aquired by the WIKI dyslexia project include:

    Alexia (acquired dyslexia)

    Deep dyslexia


    Auditory processing disorder


    Category:Dyslexia researchers


    best wishes

  2. Ibuzzybea

    Ibuzzybea Occasional commenter

    well done!!
  3. You are not quaified or a specialist in dyslexia so it is inappropriate that you are altering that website.
  4. Ibuzzybea

    Ibuzzybea Occasional commenter

    No one is QUALIFIED to edit wikkipieia that's the point, I did have quite a look and the op was backing the post with research rather than anecdotal evidence and all seems to be well.
  5. I accept your point.
    I guess that is the controversy with Wiki. Anynyone can state what they like regardless of whether it is totally accurate. Unfortunately the layout of Wiki lays itself open to the publishing of misleading information.
    I too had a look at the site and found a few inaccuracies and some of the references contradicted the comments they were meant to back up. A typical example of that was the comment that scotopic sensitivity is an underlying cause of dyslexia. Official sites on Scotopic sensitivity does not claim it is an underlying cause of dyslexia. They state that it is common amongst some dyslexics but is a separate condition. There were additional points like that but thats the problem with Wiki. :)
  6. Ibuzzybea

    Ibuzzybea Occasional commenter

    Yes that is the problem, you know you can change it yourself! You just have to create an account it's as easy as pie (fortunately or unfortunately). I have an account if you want me to change little things (just send me an email.)
  7. Thanks for your kind offer. i'll see how i get on and if I need helpI know where to come [​IMG]
  8. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

    The dyslexia WIKI artilce is research review paper based and not on the opinions of so called educational professional sho have very little understanding of dyslexia at all.
    The research papers are avaialbel from many online publishing libraries, and have acces to most research journals. There are too may UK educational professionals who pretend to have some idea about dyslexia which for the most part is totlaly unfounded. The UK dyslexia agencies do not provide curretn dyslexia research information from a a globla prespective, and are influenced by the dyalexia industry selling support programs, books and dydlexia friendly programs. There are even somer bogus dyslexia qualifications around as well.
    Ia m dyslexic and i have spent the last 10 years unraveling waht causes my dyslexic symptoms which is not helped by the myths and lack of real information which is lacking in the UK. I now know that Auditory Processing Disorder causes my own dyslexic symptoms, and that potewntial dyslexics from families with a history of dyslexia xan be detacted as young as 6 months old. This sort of information has been withheald from the UK public and dyslexics by ther UK dyslexia industry so that tbnye can sell their products at the expense of these most in need.

    As I have said the Wiki Dyslexia artilce for the most part is notr supported by international dyalexia research and nad had moved away from the Dyslexia Assocatipons who all have their own in house agendas.
    And Scoptic Sensitivity syndrome or Irlen sysdrome does cause some to be dyalexic due to e reaction to light sensitivity and tect which is why some dyslexics benefit from cloured lenses and overlays. We arfe moving towards a medial diagnosis of dyslexia so that the real cognitive deficits can be identified and thereofe the besr cognitive support options casn be provided depending on each dyuslexics cognitive support needs. The educational diagnsotic system is too hap hazaed and misses too many dyslexics, but could be useful an educational screening test for progress made by individual dyalexics in the future.
    best wishes


  9. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

    you may like to look at the my collections of research papers which I have amassed while on this project.
    Dyslexia and Attention
    Dyslexia and Auditory Processing
    Dyslexia and Cognitive Nuerology, Neurobiology
    Dyslexia and Genetic Research
    Dyslexia and Orthography
    Dyslexia and Phonological Processing
    Dyslexia and Remediation
    Dyslexia and Speech and Language Impairments
    Dyslexia and Visual Processing
    Dyslexia and Working Memory

    Dyslexia in Chinese Orthographies

    and that is only one publishing house, PubMed, there are many others.
    you mauy also like to have a look at some recent definitions of dyslexia based on this type of research.

  10. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

  11. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

    Dyslexia is a man made problem, and as such can not be a condition its own right.
    Dyslexia is about having problems processing the visual notion of speech, which imedicately includes both auditory and visual cogitive defitics and sensitivities. There are also Attention issues as well.
    Research is now moving away from the old system of only just comparing dyslexics with control non dyslexics,Researchers have finall got around to comparing different cognitive sub types of dyalexics both with each otrher and the control group groups of non dyslexics which is providing a much clearer picture regarding the different underlying causes of dyslexia, the different cognitive skill sets required to perform the task of reading in each of the writing systems and the various orthographies within each writing system. nd baed on the cognitive skill set requirements for the orthography you are working in, it is them possible to establish the cognsitive deficits which may cause the dyslexic symptoms in that orthography andf a range of coping strategies to help those whop have that type of cognitive deficit. Which will better than the hotch potch system we have now.
  12. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

    Regarding Scotopic Sensitivity Syndrome (Irlen Syndeome) I would suggest you look at some of the locla NHS trust web pages on the topic such as http://bit.ly/Ed5A8
    Filtered/coloured lenses for scotopic sensitivity syndrome
    Partially excluded procedure
    Policy Summary
    Provision of coloured filters/ tinted lenses for specific reading difficulty (SRD) is
    considered a low priority treatment. These will not be offered for specific reading
    Background to the condition
    The most common specific learning difficulty is specific reading difficulty (SRD).
    Developmental dyslexia or specific learning difficulty for reading has been defined as
    attainment of reading skills below normal for age, in the presence of normal
    intelligence, and adequate learning opportunities.
    In 1983 Irlen described Scotopic Sensitivity Syndrome which was said to cause visual
    discomfort in a subgroup of people with dyslexia. It consisted of six major categories of
    • Photophobia: sensitivity to light.
    • Background distortion.
    • Visual resolution: the inability to see print clearly and free from distortions.
    • Scope of focus: the inability to perceive groups of letters, notes, numerals, or
    words at the same time.
    • Sustained focus: the inability to maintain focus except with the employment of
    inordinate energy and effort.
    • Depth perception/gross motor activities: the inability to judge distance
    Sufferers from SSS were diagnosed by a set of questions constituting the Irlen
    Differential Perceptual Schedule (IDPS) test and treated with coloured lenses specific
    to each individual.
    Specific reading difficulty

    May be you should consult the medicla professionals more regarding medical issues which can hinder learning. This woud provide you with a beter understanding of some of your apparently least able students
  13. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

    Hi maizie

    As per usual they have no real idea waht dyslexia really is, and that is the problem, the whole review falls down from there. This is just your average what works for some dyslexics in a Latin Alphabetic writing system. There is no mention fot he 2 decades of Neuroiimaging research into dyslexia and none of the program assessment appear to use nueroimaging to see discover the cognitive deficits that each dyslexic has and how the each program does or does not provide any remedial support for each individual dyslexic.
    There is no mention of what dyslexia is in other writing system and their different orthographies, and has not begin to address the issues as to why a bilingual child can be only monoligual dyslexic. Until those whpo carry out these reviews begin to use all of the current tecent research fom around the world, they are not really worth the paper they are written on. This paer almost falls into that category. Thye only mention some of the visual issues which cna cause dyalexia, there is no mention of the issues which cause phonologicla (sound manipulation) processing problems, and mention of those who due a cognitive deficts are not able to process speech well and can only learn ther whole sound of a word, and are not able to process the seperate sounds that go to make up a word in an alphabetic writing system, which is why the whole word apprach works or Morphological approach works for them and probably why most of ther world population use a Morphological writing system.
    So the first thing for any future review to do is to carry out an indepth review of the both neurobiology genetic development issues of dyslexia, indetify the different underlying cognitive deficit sub groups of dyslexics (currently defined as Auditory, Visual and Attention by recent German Researchers) define the primary cognitive skill sets required to perform the task of reading in our Orthography in the Latin Writing System, identify the cognitiver skill defict(s) of each dyalexic, and then using various remedial strategies measure ther areas of neurla activity which help the dyslexic work around their cognitive defitics. This can be done and will require UK researchers to learn how to use modern research technologies. and to move a way from looking for single cause of dyslexia, and towards a medical diagnosis of dyslexi, and lwetting the present test only be used to define the progress made by the individual dyalexic, and suggest the levels of supprt required at regular review intervals.The UK is still falling further behind in this area of research due the reluctance of the UK dyslexia industry to move away from their lucrative trading position, at the expense of those most in need, those who have dyslexia.

  14. Thank you for the info links. I also looked at the other links on wikipeadia which confirmed my thoughts on wikipeadia being inacurate.

    The recent www.dcsf.gov.uk/jimroseanddyslexia/) officially describes dyslexia as a condition in its own right.
    I've looked at many official sites and documents on the topic of Scotopic Sensitivity. I've been on a number of courses on Scotopic sensitivity too. None these sites/documents state that Scotopic sensitivity is an
    underlying cause of dyslexia. They state that the condition is often comorbid with dyslexia. The comment on Scotopic Sensitivity was just an example of some of the inaccuracies of Wikipeadia.
    I have just used the official website reference data available online to identify another example of inaccuracy was the describing APD as an underlying cause of dyslexia. The official MRC hearing institute website describes APD as being similar ( but separate) to dyslexia
    not an underlying cause, (www.ihr.mrc.ac.uk/research/projects/apd). The Deafness UK research documents also confirmed that APD was a separate condition to Dyslexia.
    is open to anyone to claim what they like regardless of its acuracy. . That is why Wiki is full of
    contradictions particulalry where the links contradict the points they
    are meant to reference.

  15. Just because Jim Rose appears to say it is so, doesn't actually make it so. Jim Rose was not asked to report on whether or not dyslexia exists as a discrete condition, he was asked to consider what should be done to help dyslexics. Despite the beliefs that a lot of people have about 'dyslexia' there is a great deal of doubt over whether it exists as a discrete condition or whether it is just a symptom of an underlying condition.
    I have clashed with dolfrog on many occasions, but I have always agreed with him that dyslexia is a 'symptom' not a 'condition'.
    One of the most telling pieces of evidence for me (and this is where dolfrog & I differ!) is that most 'dyslexics', when given structured and systematic phonics based instruction as an intervention, (as Singleton shows in the review I linked to earlier) improve their reading skills. It begs the question, if they had had this instruction from the start would they have turned out to be 'dyslexic'?
  16. Very interesting points Maizie. I agree just because anyone
    says things it doesn't mean we have to accept what they say including those that claim its a symptom. There
    are many conroversial claims regarding dyslexia. One is whether it
    exists at all let alone as a conditon or a symptom etc.
    There is plenty of research that claims dyslexia has its origins with
    neurological differences. Its interesting if you look at the other "conditions" and view at them
    in the same way as you see dyslexia as a symptom. What are the
    underlying causes of those conditions? Shouldn't they also be called symptoms because
    they will have an underlying cause for their difficulties.
    A lot of controversy is due to terminology . Some
    use the term dyslexia meaning only difficulty with reading. They make
    claims that other "conditions" are the cause of dyslexia when they mean these conditions cause
    difficulties with reading. Using this model, virtually any thing that causes difficulty with reading is dyslexia. I am long sighted so without my specs I could claim that it is the cause of my dyslexia which would be ridiculous.

    The reason there are different kinds of learning difficulties is
    because they are grouped into their specific neurological/
    cognitive/physical profiles that are common to that area of difficulty.
    There are many reasons why children having reading difficulties, not all are dyslexic. When assessed dyslexics show an identifiable cognitive profile that is different to other learning difficulties.
    I agree that when they are
    taught iusing amultisensory approach that is phonic based many don't experience difficulty
    with reading as Chris Singleton states. This has been known for many years. That is why dyslexia specific programmes like Walter Bramley's Units of Sound, Beve Hornsby's Alpha to Omega and the Orton /Gillingham methodology are phonic base.
    When they have mastered reading they will still be dyslexic. Their neurological difference will still be there. When I wear my specs I can read. That doesn't mean I am no longer have hyperopia.
    There is more to dyslexia than just reading. The majority of dyslexics find spellings much harder to master .

  17. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

    Government June 2009 government report (www.dcsf.gov.uk/jimroseanddyslexia/) does not officially describe dyslexia as a condition in its own right, but oinly creates a working model for the sake of the report, which is not vases on current science but more the usual Rose bodging of the issues.
    Dyslexia is not a cognitive condition it never will be. Dyslexia is a man made creation.
    Currently the best earch based defintions are:"Developmental reading disorder, also called dyslexia, is a reading
    disability resulting from the inability to process graphic symbols."

    (MedlinePlus brings together authoritative information from NLM,the
    National Institutes of Health (NIH), and other government agencies and
    health-related organizations.)


    is a brain-based type of learning disability that specifically impairs
    a person's ability to read. These individuals typically read at levels
    significantly lower than expected ...despite having normal
    intelligence. Although the disorder varies from person to person,
    common characteristics among people with dyslexia are difficulty with
    spelling, phonological processing (the manipulation of sounds), and/or
    rapid visual-verbal responding. In adults, dyslexia usually dyslexia
    usually occurs after a brain injury or in the context of dementia. It
    can also be inherited in some families, and recent studies have
    identified a number of genes that may predispose an individual to
    developing dyslexia."

    National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke

    And the most recent interational research has been defining the cognitive subtypes of dyslexia
    Cognitive subtypes of dyslexia
    A case study of an English-Japanese bilingual with monlongual dyslexia
    A multidisciplinary approach to understanding developmental dyslexia
    within working-memory architecture: genotypes, phenotypes, brain, and

    A structural-functional basis for dyslexia in the cortex of Chinese readers
    The role of visual and auditory temporal processing for Chinese children with developmental dyslexia.
    Paying attention to reading: the neurobiology of reading and dyslexia.
    The human lexinome: genes of language and reading.
    There are some 200 or so more research papers which can be found in my Pubmed dyslexia research paper collections http://delicious.com/dolfrog/PubMed_Collection+dyslexia
    The real problem in the UK is that there are too many so called dyslexia professionals who have questionable dyslexia qualifications who know nothing about decades of international dyalexia research and are continually failing all who have dyslexia expecially those in the education system.
    The dyslexic industry in the UK does not want current research to be avialable in the public domain in the UK inorder to protect their income and corperate funding, or have their lack of knowledge exposed.
    I can only hope that Orchid_Meadow is not one of the many trying to conceal their ignorance of the underlying cognitive causes or subtypes of dyslexia.

  18. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

    Hi maizie
    I have in my collection of Dyslexia research papers two collections which address the issues you always raise Dyslexia and Remediation and

    Plasticity both of these research paper collections hopefully will shed more educated light on these issues.
    regarding phonic teaching may be you should havw a look at the following collections of research papers
    Dyslexia and Phonological Processing
    Dyslexia and Auditory Processing
    Dyslexia and Visual Processing
    Dyslexia and Attention
    Dyslexia and Speech and Language Impairments
    Dyslexia and Orthography
    Dyslexia in Logographic (Chinese, Japanese) Orthographies
    Dyslexia: Cognitive Neurology and Neurobiology
    Dyslexia and Genetic Research
    It took me 3 months to compile these collections to try to make sense of the mess that was and probably will always be the Wkipedia Dyslexia artilce or series of artilces as it is now. I have left others to have their own wiki wars about the content, but I now have one of the best combined dyslexia research paper collections on the internet available for all to access and read so that the UK and USa dyslexia industries can no longer hold the general population and dyslexics in particualr in the dark with regard the the last 2 decades of international dyslexia research, and the understanding that this research brings to the cognitive problems that dyslexics like myself face on a daily basis.
    If you look at the Wikipeadia artilce the supporting research papers are more important than the acrual contnet, but there where 5 research papers supporting APD as an underlying cause of dyslexia. True none are from the UK, but the UK is still playing catch up with regard to APD, and the first objective has been to develop new universal APD diagnostic tests rather than investigate the implications of having APD.

  19. dolfrog

    dolfrog New commenter

    Temporal Auditory and Visual Motion Processing of Children Diagnosed with Auditory Processing Disorder and Dyslexia.
    Dawes P, Sirimanna T, Burton M, Vanniasegaram I, Tweedy F, Bishop DV.

    and Deafness Research Group, Department of Psychology, University of
    Manchester, Manchester; 2Department of Audiological Medicine, Great
    Ormond Street Hospital for Children, London; 3John Radcliffe Hospital,
    Headington, Oxford; 4St. George's Hospital, Hornchurch, Essex;
    5Manchester Royal Infirmary, Oxford Road, Manchester; and 6Oxford Study
    of Children's Communication Impairments (OSCCI), Department of
    Experimental Psychology, University of Oxford, Oxford
    Ear and Hearing Aug 2009

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