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Discussion in 'Education news' started by loodle1, May 28, 2016.
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When I taught, make teachers lazily wore trousers, shirt, tie and jacket. Workwear because men can’t bothered. Female teachers wore varied stuff. Fine, but plenty of them banging on about girls’ jewellery with their own wrists bedecked with bangles etc.
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I'm not sure what's lazy about wearing trousers (or the other things).
On the days I can't be bothered, I wear the crumpled trousers from yesterday, and the shirt with the coffee stains down the front. That is not what I wear to work. On the days I can (or have to be) be bothered, I take the trouble to choose appropriate clothing from what is expected by my employer. I make sure the clothing is clean, and pressed if necessary and that the tie goes with the shirt. There may not be a big choice of jackets because I can't afford many work jackets.
I am happy to accept that my fashion sense has often been slightly dodgy, but I rather resent that you think my choice of workwear is lazy. Most teachers have a smallish range of work clothes that they work hard to keep presentable. They try to show that they take their jobs seriously by dressing seriously.
I do find it odd that ties are still required by male teachers. Most professionals in other sectors (such as where I am now in commercial surveying) never wear ties. I feel like only public workers and some retail are made to wear ties now.
I have always worn a tie, I probably always will. I have my old regimental tie, and specialist tie from my time in the Royal Air Force, I have my football club tie. I know of one school, not a private school, that male staff wear a school tie, different from the student school tie. There again as soon as the summer term finishes I am in shorts and tie shirt(regardless of the weather) until I start back.
I suppose it is an age thing. Before I became a teacher I worked in the banking sector and in those days you were expected to wear a collar and tie.
When I went into teaching 20 plus years ago it was expected that male staff wear collar and tie. Then when I became a HT I continued to wear a suit and tie. When I retired I donated 5 suits to the local charity shop. However things have changed and whenever I go into schools on supply I rarely see, apart from the HT, male staff wearing a tie. Indeed I no longer do so myself but instead I wear a smart pair of trousers and a formal shirt.
Up until a few months ago I was doing some invigilating at a local Academy. They had a dress code where all male members of staff were expected to wear a jacket and tie.
One Academy I worked at had a dress code of jacket and tie, the jacket had to be worn at all times when not teaching i.e walking between classes etc. Didn't bother me, but as @Jesmond12 says it could be an age thing, I like to look the part so to speak.
In Nigeria, you either put it on or get sanctioned as it is the official workplace dress code somehow.
'Ties n Tights'???!!! what era of educational institutions do you lot teach in???
At one school I worked in, male teachers were required to wear a starched collar, white bow tie and waistcoat, which made us all look rather like table waiting staff. I have to say I actually quite liked it, and have since always felt slightly awkward in a regular soft collar and necktie.
Men don't wear ties at our school - some wear a formal shirt and trousers, others sort of a check-shirt-and-cords casual look. Women have a 'smart casual' code, but it's very ambiguous and often ignored. We have a no denim rule, but many people wear bright coloured jeans. We're also no flip-flips or mule-style sandals in summer - your sandals must have a back strap. That rule is checked on and adhered to. You can wear whatever bangles and necklace you like, but no hoop or over-sized earrings (H&S).
I think in answer to the original question ‘is it sexist...’ I’d say that having a dress code here isn’t the problem. It’s society’s take on what constitutes ‘professional attire’ for each of the sexes. I’m amazed to see men wearing full suits when women at the same establishment are in floaty summer dresses. To me, they’re not in professional wear, but society are a lot more lenient when it comes to women’s clothing choices. I’d prefer it if women were more restricted than men being more relaxed. There are many jobs out there, not just teaching, that expect you do a professional job, standing/walking for long periods of time, whilst wearing a suit and tie (for men). My worry is that whilst men are looking so profession in their ties and women are looking more relaxed in their summer dresses, are we inadvertently teaching our kids that men are more professional? The way we present ourselves leads to judgements in the type of person we are and our ability. It might be unfair, but it’s human nature. We all do it. Are we ensuring that equality can’t happen because of our expectations on what ‘professional dress’ means for each sex?