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Dress codes for teachers

Discussion in 'Education news' started by loodle1, May 28, 2016.

  1. num3bers

    num3bers Occasional commenter

    I am sure my school has a dress code for staff although it seems almost universally ignored by teachers ( admin staff adhere to it). I have often looked around and noticed too that even when conforming to the code some staff can still look scruffy and slovenly. How they manage that I am not sure but staff where I work are very good at looking scruffy whilst still wearing suits ( for men) and dresses/skirts/tops and jackets ( for women).
  2. JosieWhitehead

    JosieWhitehead Star commenter

    I haven't been on TES for weeks but isn't it funny that the day I do pop in I should see your subject because I wrote a poem: "Wear a Tie Young Man" and, believe it or not and to my surprise, it was chosen by teachers for publication in 2010. So here I go and you can get your children discussing this next term:


    By Josie Whitehead

    Wear a tie young man, wear a tie young man -
    For they make you look as clever as they possibly can.
    Wear a tie for a funeral and another for each day.
    Wear a tie when you work and one when you play.

    Wear a tie when you drive and another when you walk.
    Wear a tie when you’re silent and one when you talk.
    ‘No, don’t wear a tie’ is what some people say -
    If you want to keep those nasty little germs at bay.

    They don’t keep you warm or hide the hairs on your chest.
    And most only wear them when they want to look their best.
    We women ditched our bustles and the corsets went too.
    If you want to join the modern world, you know what to do!!

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  3. drek

    drek Star commenter

    I must admit to envying the PE lot in their shorts and tees in the summer but feel completely the opposite in the winter.

    On average if you ask a woman to dress smart casual they seem to know what that means....

    Men seem to be catching up now compared to a decade ago when some seemed to think it meant ill fitting sweats.....and beards with food bits to add interest.......
  4. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    I have always thought it the opposite. Men can wear a collared shirt and tie whereas women get away with skin tight jeggings and a flowery blouse.
  5. Startedin82

    Startedin82 Established commenter

    My wife's school's HT decreed that staff (nearly all female) were not allowed to wear flip flop, open toed sandal type footwear. However everyone ignores this and does so during the summer. All the HT has succeeded in doing is undermining her own authority that little bit more.
  6. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    TBH I can see some H & S issues with wearing flip-flops in a working environment.
  7. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    We didn't ban then but issued a statement to say if someone received a foot injury (perhaps a child steps on foot or heavy object dropped on foot) and they were wearing open toed sandals then any injury would be deemed their fault.
    palmtree100 and wanet like this.
  8. JosieWhitehead

    JosieWhitehead Star commenter

    To change the subject to children dressing smartly (because they've all been buying their uniforms lately): My friend's little girl starts school this week, aged only just 4 - ahhhh. She has bought her school uniform and the school has told her that she can wear light tights now under her skirt and warmer ones when it gets colder. I am pleased to know that she doesn't just have to wear short socks - but for myself, it seems a long time since I wore dresses. I love wearing my light trousers and tee-shirts. I've got to feel quite comfortable in them over the years, and I am also glad I don't have to wear high heeled shoes any more. I had a big operation on my ankle this year and I couldn't wear high heels now.
  9. fiels002

    fiels002 New commenter

    I am intrigued by several posts along the lines of "if the pupils wear ties, the staff should". There is a girls' school near here where the girls wear blazers and ties, but the female teachers do not. I have never known any school that makes female teachers wear ties, even if the girls do. Teachers do not need to wear school uniform. There are a couple of articles about sexist dress codes and school uniform at sexistdresscodes.com
  10. exploration

    exploration New commenter

    It doesn’t surprise me a woman wrote this haha. You don’t have to wear one! It’s a silly outdated noose in my opinion. If the Speaker can allow MPs not to wear one in the House of Commons, then perhaps men should stand up for sexism in their schools?! Ties are becoming necessary only for the somewhat lowly - estate agents, traffic wardens etc.

    Edit: Just read it in full actually and realised the sarcasm that’s only apparent from the last line or two.
  11. JosieWhitehead

    JosieWhitehead Star commenter

    My reply: Yes, there is usually a question following what I say. This poem was chosen, I'm sure, because it leads to classroom discussion. The most popular of my poems with teachers is called: "if Children Ruled the World" and it starts with showing all the benefits they would gain, if only they ruled the world, but when I get down to asking them things such as: "Who would make your toys?" and "Who would grow your food etc? if you were all playing, then this leads to discussion of course. What fun! I'm glad to have ditched the skirts, medium/high heeled shoes and, particularly, nylon tights which I've happily replaced bwithflat shoes, cotton socks, trousers and t-shirts. Oh, the joy of it! ha ha
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2017
  12. snitzelvonkrumm

    snitzelvonkrumm Occasional commenter

    I have worked in the tropics and the Middle East for the past 20 years and have never really felt too uncomfortable in tie, long sleeves and at times a suit. Comparatively, I can not see it being too much of an issue in the UK, although we were usually well served by air conditioning.
    rideemcowboy and ruthwill500 like this.
  13. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    When I became a teacher in the late 70s I knew I would have to wear a tie for the rest of my working life. In a way I "signed up to it". I cant see why wearing a tie is a problem for male staff but then maybe I am showing my age.
    snitzelvonkrumm and peter12171 like this.
  14. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    so am I
  15. cork227

    cork227 New commenter

    The requirement for men to wear ties seems to have decreased dramatically in my school in the past two years. Some new NQTs started to not wear them, and gradually some other male staff (myself included) have copied them. I think if House of Commons, Mayor of London and Goldman Sachs staff have done away with wearing a tie, then teachers can as well.

    Definitely agree that saying 'oh but boys wear ties so teachers should too' is a nonsensical argument, girls have to wear blazers but female teachers don't so why should more be expected from male staff. Also very aware that when I leave school, most other men I see wearing ties are supermarket workers, security guards and estate agents/salespeople. Most 'real' professionals have either done away with them or are doing away with them. That's the reason I stopped wearing one in the end...
  16. theworm123

    theworm123 Lead commenter

    In my faculty, we don’t have a formal dress code. There’s sort of an unwritten one which says ‘don’t look like a tramp’. This is because we are a Computer Science department and programmers tend to dress quite scruffily.
    It’s a good job NQT’s don’t pick up their sartorial choices from their lecturers.
  17. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    NQTs at the last school I worked at were given a staff dress code which stipulated the wearing of a ties for all male staff except for PE staff though even they were expected to dress up for parents' evenings etc. The school was an average comp not a posh grammar.
  18. cork227

    cork227 New commenter

    We have a written dress code that requires male staff to wear ties as well, but it's ignored. I hope your school required an equally smart standard of dress from female teachers, otherwise perhaps the male members should ask why they're being held to higher standards.
  19. Ex-teacher

    Ex-teacher Occasional commenter

    When my last school introduced a dress code, male staff had to wear suits. An email went out that if this caused financial issues for staff they were to see the CEO.
    Of course, the majority of staff were young, keen and enthusiastic, and didn't own suits, but didnt want to rock the boat. Some of the "suits" that appeared were comical.
    The dress code was quietly changed, to say business dress. Same for women...but it did always amaze me what some of them got away with...
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  20. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    One thing I did find on supply is how schools reacted to myself turning up in tie and collar..some objected if i didnt, others seemed pleased to see a 'smartly dressed' supply teacher.
    I found wearing collar and tie inthe class room seemed to affect the children in that, as the head was usually the one wearing a tie,( men that is) they some how assumed you must be a senior person( I was, but in age not level of responsibility!)
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