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Discussion in 'Personal' started by anon468, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. anon468

    anon468 New commenter

    Unless you really, really want a dog and are prepared for your life to be altered completely for perhaps the next 15 years (oh yes), then the kindest thing you can do is:
    a) Put this silly, irresponsible man (because he didn't have his dog neutered) in touch with Dogs Trust. They will take on the pups and look after them until they are found good homes. They never, ever destroy a healthy dog.
    b) Put him in contact with the PDSA if he cannot afford to have his dog neutered.
  2. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    If you're not used to have dogs,is a puppy a good idea? I believe they are hard work and can test the patience of even the more seasoned owners. I love cats but I favour adopting older ones as I'm not sure I would have the patience for a kitten.
  3. Yes, get him to contact Dog's Trust/ local charity etc - you could even do a google for animal charities in your area.
    PDSA will only pay for treatment if the owner is on benefits and gets council tax help/ rent paid or something like like, so you can see why people who fall into financial issues, and already have animals, may get into trouble...
    As for killing them, well he is emotionally blackmailing you. Maybe suggest that you are so worried that you will contact the RSPCA on his behalf, as you don't want to put him in that awful dilemma.
    A dog will change your life - don't do it unless you really want to. You know that you will end up feeding, washing, walking and clearing the poop...That said, dogs and animals, in general, are very rewarding but be careful what you go into. Mongrel dogs tend to be healthier and live longer, too - just something to ponder...
  4. anon468

    anon468 New commenter

  5. The difficulty with a dog is that they do require so much work! It sounds like you're well set up though, which is good.
    My parents had a puppy about 4 years ago (quite a big-ish westie) and I don't think they realised at the time how much work he would be, especially as a puppy. For the first year he was quite demanding (training, socialising, making sure he didn't destroy things haha) but now he's a lovely little dog and they get a lot of pleasure from having him. He's a great stress reliever as he gets them outdoors etc. he's a very active dog though, which means two walks a day for at least half an hour each.
    Expense-wise, I don't think it's that bad. Pet insurance can be expensive (I think theirs is with sainsburys?) but it's worth it. Wormers and flea treatment, food, having fur cut (don't think this should be a problem for yours?).
    I would suggest looking into the costs and the breed types (that you already know!) as this will give you an indication of what their personality will be like: some breeds are more demanding, active, placid etc. than others.
    Hope that helps! x
  6. This isn't a post from crabapple at all. This is Lilyof the fields here, August 2012. my time projection machine is working perfectly, but I have accidently projected myself into Crabapples home by mistake.Trying to get in touch with Lilyofthefield Aug 2011. Important message
    "DON'T DO IT-
    SAY NO-
    The puppy isn't your responsibility, you have no idea of the health or tempermant of it's parents and given to a dogs home, experts will be able to properly assess him, and match him to a suitable family.
    And you will be a lot richer in the future if you bet on the outside 10000 to 1 winner of the 2012 100m final. To everyone's amazement, the event was won by.....

  7. PlymouthMaid

    PlymouthMaid Occasional commenter

    Lily you have a kind heart but it really doesn't sound like the best idea. if you wanted a dog i am sure you would spend quite a while considering what sort of dog you may like the best and which would fit in with your family. It would be a whole family decision. There is considerable expense and time involved in the training and care of a puppy as i am sure you know. I am a doggy person and i am sure it would enhance your life in many ways but also detract in others. The chap is blackmailing you into having a puppy.
  8. There are lots of good reasons to get a dog. A not-very-nice neighbour (who will continue to live his life and deal with his dog in his own way regardless of how you handle this situation today) wanting to offload a puppy is NOT one of them.
    This event has got you thinking about the idea of getting a dog, so go ahead and do that - I would implore you not to go off half-cocked and end up saddled with any old dog at a time not of your own choosing without your husband having bought into it.
    Sad to say it, but this puppy's life is one of millions around the world, you can't cure all the ills done to dogs by this one act, but you can find yourself in a deeply regrettable situation. Once he has wormed his way into your heart, your life and your finances you will be stuck stuck stuck for over ten years- rather wait and go into it properly.
    If you want to help a dog (very laudable, of course, and it's brilliant that you're able to offer a dog in need a good home) rehome a pup of mature dog of a suitable breed and temperament from the RSPCA or similar once your husband has bought into it - with your being at home a lot and not having other dogs / young kids / etc, you can help out a dog that's had a bad start, what a lovely thing to do!
    Last, and definitely not least, your life as a dog owner with a husband having had it sprung on him will be awkward. I am (sort of) in your husband's position - I never wanted a dog but I did get talked around and did even go and pick her up etc, but I still lash out at him with "I'm not the one who WANTED a dog" when times are tough (or even when they aren't that tough, like when there are 7 poops in the garden to be picked up!).
  9. My friend got a dog in fairly similar circumstances - all the others had been drowned, I think. She is a sweet little thing - very odd looking, bless her, little legs, rotund, and wire-haired with tufts on her chest. (The dog). Much loved by all. Of course it is a commitment but just because you haven't had a dog before doesn't mean you wouldn't enjoy it.
    I do agree with the comments about the irresponsible owner, and it makes me very sad.

  10. Regardless of whether you decide to home a dog, you NEED to get in touch with a dog rescue charity as a matter of urgency.
    What a horrendous man, saying he will kill the poor little puppies that have come about from HIS idiocy.
    I think I would end up taking them in as a last resort and then taking them to dogs trust etc myself - but phone them first and see what their advice is.
    I wouldn't have a dog because I have cats and dont have the time to care for a dog, but I couldn't stand back and let the ***** kill them :(
  11. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter

    Report this fu**er immediately. What an utter $%£"(()*&.
    Sorry haven't read the whole thread, simply couldn't, just got as far as this bit of Lily's post and then got very angry.
  12. dusty67

    dusty67 New commenter

    We never had a pet because our eldest is very allergic to animals. Our youngest has always been desperate for a pet, so when he found that many allergy suffers can get on ok with Bichon Frise dogs, he launched a massive campaign to get one.

    Hubby was DEAD set against it, but the youngest wore him down and we got a very small fluffy white dog. Hubby said "I'm not walking that! It's a rat not a real dog!"

    Guess who is the softest with her now, spends most time with her curled up next to him on sofa and loves walking her every evening?
  13. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    Every pet I've ever had was the result of listening to a sob story. If I'd listened to my head I'd never have had any of them but I never regretted having them except when it was raining and I had to walk the various dogs I've had!
  14. Dogs are great. Puppies are a bit like having a small child around, though. Can you be bothered? I'm not sure I would get another puppy, especially one just weaned.
  15. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    Me too.
  16. langteacher

    langteacher Occasional commenter

    I agree, get in touch with the dogs trust ASAP
  17. We never used to have people like him living round here! This area really has gone down the pan. I mentioned it to MrL when he came in and he was dead set against it. "Don't think I'll ever be getting up half an hour early to walk it in the rain" was one such. "At my age I'm trying to shake off responsibilities, not take them on", "We've just had new carpets and sofas," and "Who's going to look after it when we're in America next year?" "Don't look at me," said Son2.
    "It would be a good defence against burglars" was my next effort. "What? The offspring of that scraggy whippet thing? I'm surprised he doesn't use string for a lead. A burglar would just kick it out of the way." Then his usual trump card "Tell you what, you get a proper job and then we'll be able to afford to kennel it when we go away and £100 a year insurance."
    "He's going to "destroy" them if he can't get shot." "Probably best under the circumstances."
    So not looking very hopeful at the moment. I'll have another word later when he's feeling less tired but if I don't get anywhere I'll pop round tomorrow and give this man the phone number of the Dog Rescue thing, and leave them a message too.
  18. Crowbob

    Crowbob Established commenter

    If he won't let you have it, really ruin his night and tell him about speeding fine [​IMG]
  19. anon468

    anon468 New commenter

    Lily, that does not sound like a man who will ever be happy about having a dog. [​IMG]
    On the plus side, you'd save a fortune on your gym fees - I do 5 miles a day minimum with mine, 7 days a week. Keeps the flab at bay nicely.
  20. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    Lily, don't be ridiculous! A dog is for life, not just for August.

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