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Do international schools publish their exam results?

Discussion in 'International Baccalaureate' started by alex_teccy, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    Do international schools publish their exam results?

    Are they required to publish their exam results in the same way as public schools, or does this vary from country to country?

    Presumably IB do not publish individual school results?

    Thanks.
     
  2. liamhammer1

    liamhammer1 New commenter

    Varies greatly, most schools will selectively publish a view the their results that enhances their marketing messages. There is no compulsion to do so.
    The IB does not publish individual results, but their do publish a comprehensive country by country and subject by subject set of results in the IB Statistical Bulletin, but only member schools have access to this on the PRC.
     
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  3. taiyah

    taiyah Occasional commenter

    It is a marketing tool for schools who have got their educational and business plans at a right (ish) balance (ish). So yes, schools for their own benefit, particularly those in Asian countries do publish their results. But you'll find, in general schools who are 1) more or less do and can produce good consistent results. 2) Established schools.
     
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  4. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    @liamhammer1 and @taiyah
    Thanks for the replies. What you said confirms my thinking on the matter!
     
  5. yasf

    yasf Established commenter

    Generally yes. Most schools will publish their IB average points score (APS), and British schools will usually publish their iGCSE results on their websites. Schools will also publish the names of universities that their students are going on to - which is ultimately what parents really care about.
    No - thank god. That nauseating imposition on schools has yet to fully take hold, and hopefully never will. League tables in the UK have completely wrecked what was a good education system.
    No, although they do publish overall IB statistics, which can be quite interesting.
     
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  6. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    Thanks for the info!
     
  7. percy topliss

    percy topliss Occasional commenter

    Our school profile shows the DP Average score for our students over the past 4 years compared to the world average, our completion rate: Students who begin the Diploma against those who finish and also our progression to university for the past 5 or 6 years. All of the major International Schools do this as a means of marketing.

    Perce
     
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  8. nemo.

    nemo. Occasional commenter

    International schools after a bit of fiddling (students who fail the diploma are counted as certificate students - honest) and some slight of hand with a calculator.

    It is always worth asking how many students actually sat IB exams as a final year student and compare for "missing " students. Same with IGCSE and compute how many were "amended ". Some is ok, eg cutting down to 6 with Maths and English included, but some schools .....
     
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  9. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    Are IB results a good indicator of the quality of the school? Might seem like a silly question, but I'm so used to UK schools projecting themselves using their results only to find a different reality when working there...
     
  10. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    it's a simple answer to a complex question. no its, not a good indicator. the "quality" of an international school is an extremely difficult thing to quantify, and so never be solely based on its exam results.

    trying to find a way to escape the utter disaster that Brexshit is going to make of the UK @alex_teccy ? after reading some of your views on the brexshit thread, you may want to reconsider moving abroad if that's what you are thinking.
     
  11. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    @dumbbells66 Thank's for your response about the international schools situation.

    I don't share your pessimistic view of Brexit at all. (also "Brexshit" is not that funny). Look at my views on the thread by all means, they're backed up with sound reasoning. If you want an example of how successful the UK can be outside the EU, look at the international educational sector, which is thriving. International educational services are exactly the kind of refined service that the UK specialises in, and one that the world is queing up for. There are 600 million new middle-class in China alone, for example!
     
  12. harsh-but-fair

    harsh-but-fair Star commenter

    :D:mad:
     
  13. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    That success has been achieved during near 50 year mmembership of the EU hasn't it?:)

    A genuine question though, what does memebrship of the EU prevent us doing in providing international education servcies? What will be able to do after leaving the EU that we cannot do now in international education?
     
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  14. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    I'm not aware of anything that EU membership prevents us from doing such services, so perhaps as an example of where the CU does not apply it is and excellent example of the type of opportunities that are out there!
     
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  15. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    I suppose you are thinking about international schools that are adopting the British system? you mean that system that is totally dwarfed by the IB which is run out of the EU. so many old "British style" schools are changing over to the IB. i would do a little more research about the international world if i was you.
     
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  16. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    Calm down and stop flaming. The international scene recruits heavily from the UK, and yes they teach the IB (base in Cardiff?) but the school structure, branding is often based on British models.
    But you're missing the point. I gave it as an example of a sector where the UK is flourishing outside of the CU, which is a cartel that other nations complain to the WTO about, e.g. the CAP

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ulation-of-farm-products-at-wto-idUSKCN1TZ1MU
     
  17. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    oh, you have no clue o_O. best of luck finding a job in an open-minded inclusive, international-minded schools system.

    you will find very little sympathy for your views on any of the "international forums", I can only think of one other person who doesn't think this is a complete embarrassment, and will be a complete disaster.... but then, what do we know, we have just been spending most of our working lives working and travelling around the world and having a world view.
     
  18. yasf

    yasf Established commenter

    Countries often complain about large trading blocks and/or protectionist behaviour. The US and China (the only 2 economies that measure up to the EU) frequently have complaints made against them.
    Yes, quite. Excellent because they exist whether we are in the EU or not and in no way are affected directly by Brexit. The disassembly of the globalisation project, which is one of the aims of Trump/Brexit, will almost definitely adversely affect opportunities in International Education.
     
  19. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    Yes, I'm not arguing your first point, but I was responding to an irrational argument that Brexit will be a disasater. I do not think so. Contrary to what we've heard from the various project fear- erm projects- .
    I don't think Brexit is aiming to disassemble globalisation, quite the reverese. We live on planet Earth not planet Europe. Europe is a protectionist block, with billions spent on subsidies in agriculture, yet it's the EU citizens who pay 17% more for food prices, for example.

    Thinking about the international scene. Most nations, even having far smaller economies than the UK, manage perfectly well outside of the EU. The idea that the world must to be divided into blocs is an obsolete concept.
     
  20. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    What a nasty, spiteful little post. Absoloutly briming with irrational resentment.

    The world is full of people with different opinions to yours, most gracious and large enough to accpet them.
     

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