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Distance PGCE or on campus?

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by peterkenny, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. Hi everyone,
    I know this has been asked before but I have a slightly different situation so would love some advice as im really confused about what the best thing to do for me is.
    Im currently working (3 years ) in Korea teaching mainly ESL at a primary government school. I have a PGCE in Post Compulsory Education and Training (Sunderland University) and a TEFL certificate. I want to move to an international school to teach primary next. I just feel that going back to apply for a PGCE next year (2012) which might cost 9,000 ponds + living expenses is alot of money and time i could be using to get some experience in an international school somewhere.
    Maybe if i can get a distance PGCE from Nottingham University for primary this year, while still working, together with my teaching experience thus far and my other PGCE i might be able to break into a lower tier international school somewhere and work my way up from there? Does this sound too optimistic? Should i just bite the bullet and go back for another PGCE and do it the right way?
    Any advice would be welcome, i just dont know what to do for the best really, thanks in advance!
  2. Karvol

    Karvol Occasional commenter

    You have a PGCE already. I suspect that most international employers will probably not look past this and go into the details of what age group it was for. So why not just apply for some primary positions and see how far it takes you? If you get interviews then all is fine. If not then you can start thinking about another PGCE.
  3. Can you try to get some experience to put on your CV? May be spend a bit of time in a primary classroom?
  4. nemo.

    nemo. Occasional commenter

    Hi I doubt even third tier schools would really consider you since primary school teachers with QTS are two a penny at the moment. Maybe in secondary shortage subjects you would have a chance but in priamary? Fourth tier Thai schools would consider you but you really should consider properly qualifying.

    However you are a year or two late as cutbacks in places for primary and fee increases.

    I still reckon it is worth the sacrifice to do a pgce and the induction year to be properly qualified though as you will earn more over your career and lower risk of unemployment. You will end up with a 15k student debt but then it is only paid back like a graduate tax so I wouldn't think of it as a debt if I was you.

    And when it comes to overseas jobs you would stand out as having overseas experience
  5. How do you draw the line between third tier and fourth tier schools?
  6. There are some conversion courses I think. May be you could do one of those rather than redoing the PGCE. I think a PGCE does qualify you to teach any age group, regardless of what you specialised in.
  7. nemo.

    nemo. Occasional commenter

    If it doesn't have international in it's title, is all local students, none or hardly any if the teachers are certified from a western country to teach the age group they are teaching and pay levels are under half of a first tier school. Basically what most people wouldn't call international schools really to be honest. It is all subjective but in thaand you get such schools and you know them when you are in one!
  8. Thanks again for the info. Nemo- I understand what you saying about the PGCE being worthwhile even at 15K, i dont think having worked abroad for a few years i can claim any bursaries or grants unfortunatly.
    But the next intake will be 2012, so 2014 by the time i finish NQT year, quite a long time. If i can do an online PGCE primary and get into (a 3/4th tier school) this year then by 2014 hopefully i will have been able to move to a better school. I wont have spent my savings and had to move back to England. The key is getting that first job at a lower level school and showing im a good teacher from there. Just got to hit the right school at the right time [​IMG]
    If I dont make headway im going to keep my applicatioon going through and head back for some work experience this year and apply for a 2012 intake PGCE. Im sure the course will be very useful,

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