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Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by glenister_kj, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. glenister_kj

    glenister_kj New commenter

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could offer me some advice.

    I work for an International School in Bangkok and have done since August 2017. I have a 3 year contract, however, this year I decided to leave Thailand as I am moving back to the UK as I was unhappy with the new Headmaster. My school isn't very big, however, 14 members of staff are leaving this year all due to the new appointed Head.

    On Friday, I resigned my post and gave the owner details as to why (I get on with owner well and she asked me to let her know if I was ever unhappy and wanted to leave). I stated that members of staff are leaving due to the new Head and also may pupils are leaving for the same reason. I then emailed the Head stating I was resigning. I forgot to put a date on there, however, my line manager immediately informed the Head and Owner of my last day (last day of the academic year). My contract clearly states I would need to give 3 months notice anyway, so May 8th would be my earliest last day anyway.

    I came home that evening to find my work emails blocked and also access to all of my work related accounts disabled. I immediately reached out to the Head/Owner with no response. Since then, my Job has been advertised for "immediate start". I don't know what to do now? I haven't been officially told I'm "fired" immediately so to speak.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    *some more info about me. All my appraisals/lesson jobs are classified as outstanding. I've never had a warning and the pupils have an excellent rapport with me*
  2. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    Post this also on the Teaching overseas forum. Mostly people on this forum know about English employment law and practices. Under English law this would be almost certainly illegal and we could suggest many things you could do. But none of them are likely to be much help to you as presumably your contact in governed by Thai employment law, about which I know nothing.

    Silly question for Thailand probably, but are you in a union who could advise you?
  3. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    As you have posted many times on the overseas forum, i am wondering why you have chosen to post it here
  4. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    You can 'phone the owner or you can email the owner from your own email address.

    I'd call the owner again. Leave a message. If you don't hear very soon then it'll be personal email.
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  5. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    A very strong suggestion would be to ask TES to remove this post. Then you should change your username and post for advice again.

    A few minutes on Google and you, your school, your subject and year group, etc., are all identified. So, unfortunately, is your HT - hence my suggestion that this particular post is removed. If he decides to get his hands out of his pockets (yes, I have seen the photo) and take some action over what you have posted he could make things even more unpleasant for you over the next few days and weeks.

    Your story is backed up by information posted on the school's web site and published job adverts in the UK press. I agree that there are a surprisingly large number of advertisements for teaching positions at the school (I counted eight) including your own "immediate start" advert.

    Apart from my advice above, I would suggest that you consider your current employment effectively over, dad though that is. Start making contingency plans for an early return of a possible move to another British curriculum school in Bangkok. I can see in the TES Jobs two schools looking for a teacher of your specialist subject, one in Bangkok and one in Sukhumvit.

    Sadly teaching overseas does not have the same employment protections as it does in the UK.
  6. CWadd

    CWadd Star commenter

    It reads to me as though offence has been taken at you being so candid.

    The owner may have said "tell me why you're unhappy", but that doesn't mean she wants a critique of her choice of HT. Or she's told the HT she's unhappy and he's reacted.

    Wrong? Yes. Unfair? Yes. But as it's Thailand, I'm not sure it's illegal. Start looking to return to the UK ASAP or as @nomad suggests, another job in Thailand.
  7. baitranger

    baitranger Occasional commenter

    It may be very easy for the Head to replace you at short notice-I don't know about the job market in Thailand. If you have any personal items at school, you may need to contact someone you trust there to retrieve them, if possible. It sounds as if the Head has reacted very quickly to your letter. I wouldn't have bothered to put any complaints in a letter of resignation because of the need you have for a reference. I
    don't know how things work in Thailand but it sounds as if there's no point in your going back to the school. You were leaving in any case, so it's just a matter of the pay. The more important issue will be of how you manage without a reference from the school.
    Yes, contact the TES urgently and get your post deleted.
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  8. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Working in overseas schools can be fantastic

    But sometimes it isn't.
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  9. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    And you didn't think this might not be a good idea? That the owner has recently appointed the head and so wouldn't take too kindly to a long list of complaints?
    So you sent an email to the owner slating the head and then sent the head an email to say you were resigning, with no date given? Your line manager doesn't get to tell the head when your last day will be. You needed to do this in your email, or the head (who has probably seen the communication with the owner) will assume you mean an immediate finish.
    And this surprises you?
    You possibly don't need to be. You sent an email to the owner slating the head, then told the head you were resigning (without giving a date). They have, understandably, assumed you want out immediately.
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  10. mrkeys

    mrkeys Occasional commenter

    Why are some teachers so stupid (or arrogant) to use their own name on public forums.
    So much advise about using a pseudonym to avoid an impending catastrophe.
  11. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    I have a feeling the catastrophe may have already happened!

    Though, being a bit nosy, the OP appears to have been planning to move before the end of the year anyway.
    So on Wednesday he lets the world know he is moving over the next few months. On Friday tells the head he wants to resign, but doesn't give a date.
    Perhaps the head or owner have seen that thread as well and assumed the OP was planning to up and leave at a moment's notice! :rolleyes:
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  12. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

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  13. CWadd

    CWadd Star commenter

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