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Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by segbog, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. RaymondSoltysek

    RaymondSoltysek New commenter

    When is everyone going to realise that I'm a pantomime GOODY! [​IMG]
    And come on, kibosh, I may be a brilliant barrack room lawyer, but I am pretty consistent. No twists and turns here!
     
  2. No - you attacked. Pretty simple. Admit it. And Raymond is basically propping up a failed system. He has no choice.

    Get real people.
     
  3. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    It's very true that I have not spoken directly on this thread. The main reason being anything I might say on the issue would probably identify where I teach. However,I have enjoyed this thread very much.
     
  4. RaymondSoltysek

    RaymondSoltysek New commenter

    Something wrong with my browser tonight - keeps posting blank spaces after editing.
     
  5. RaymondSoltysek

    RaymondSoltysek New commenter

    I'm glad.

     
  6. RaymondSoltysek

    RaymondSoltysek New commenter

    I absolutely agree with cheesy's analysis of your contributions.
    I think with your attitude, you're likely to fail long before the
    "system" does.


     
  7. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter

    [​IMG]
    Don't get me wrong, you are consistently entertaining and full of effort, the twists and turns of course come in when we consider your 'courtroom drama' style of offense and defense (the 'talk your way out of a paper bag' effect).
    I think that's fair.
     

  8. Thanks for the insult...needed that in my present post. You really have been such a help. Thankyou.
     
  9. RaymondSoltysek

    RaymondSoltysek New commenter

    So much help and understanding has been offered, and you've spat it all back simply because no-one agreed with your constant bile.
     
  10. Thank you expert
     
  11. RaymondSoltysek

    RaymondSoltysek New commenter

    I do too. [​IMG]
    I just LOVE courtoom dramas. Twelve Angry Men is my favourite, kibosh, though I have to say that "One Angry Segbog" is pretty well scripted too. What's yours?

     
  12. That immortal line from Charles Hawtrey in Carry on Cleo popped into my head just now ..."Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me". Not quite sure why.
     
  13. Time to calm down, chaps. I remember, many years ago, in a school now (thankfully) closed, having the bottom, non-certificate (you guys will miss S-Grade, I tell you) S4 class last period on a Friday. It wasn't a big class, but they were malevolent. We went to the pub after work one Friday and someone bought me a pint: when I picked it up, the beer was spilling down the side of the glass onto the table, because my hands were shaking so much with what I'd just been through. That was in 1979! When we could expel them or, more immediately, belt them. So what's being discussed here is not exactly a new phenomenon. Last session, as PT, I received 47 behaviour referrals. However, 35 of these were from one teacher, a teacher who had been teaching for over 30 years, a teacher who complained to the HT that I always gave him bottom sections. In fact, he was never once given a bottom section. He just made them into bottom sections, because he is a lazy so-and-so.
     
  14. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter


    [​IMG] pmsl. Aw, poor segbog!
    Seggie, you really need to change your MO. Mix it up a bit.
    This one; at least i get a bit part.[​IMG]
     
  15. Aye...all fair in love and war...nae hard feelings...

    :)
     
  16. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter


    [​IMG]
     
  17. God I've only been gone a day or two and this thing has descended into a playground battle! I left at the point of specialist units being cutback and was not getting confused with list D schools to whomever posted that. The unit in my area, lets just say east of the Castlecary Arches has suffered dramatic cuts, and is full despite there being an identified need in the secondaries for places for several kids. They are also no longer taking siblings because this causes too much conflict. Seems to me that bad parenting is at the cause of some of this behaviour after all - and that's not parent bashing Raymondo!
    Just watched a good program on telly about tackling what we have been discussing and it seems that strong management is what's required. Mmmmmmmm! or so Mr Gove and the Cons think - but I'm sure they'll want to talk more to the experts before they tell the teachers what they plan to do!
     

  18. Or even ask the teachers...chance would be a fine thing...
     
  19. RaymondSoltysek

    RaymondSoltysek New commenter

    There you go again: ask the teachers. Teachers are not a homogeneous group.


    Which teachers? The majority who are collegiate and
    proactive and want to work with parents, pupils, SMT and "experts"?


    Or the tiny minority who want to simply moan and whine and blame
    everyone else and lash out all the time and offer nothing
    constructive?







     
  20. I'm not the one lashing out here. Take a chillpill Ramyboy! I'm talking about the teachers who are at the chalkface everyday, 5 hours /day. We are never asked. And it has always been that way. Let's adopt this strategy by some genius who has never been in a classroom. Professor Von Vinkles new ideas about child micro management in the classroom. All utter hokum. Kids in class, being quiet. doing their work. That is how kids learn. Teaching has been around for eons, and that was how it worked for years. Now Scotland adopts a new strategy and the standards fall like the Greek stock exchange. You cannot dent that. Scottish teaching was world renowned. Now we are way down the league tables.
     

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