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disaster at interview lesson today!

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by clarelou_x, Feb 10, 2011.

  1. clarelou_x

    clarelou_x New commenter

    I just wanted to ask for peoples feedback on this as I'm beating myself up over not being shortlisted after teaching lesson and student panel. I think the panel went really well but the lesson was a disaster. I was left to teach a lesson with an ex ofsted inspector and 2 students observer. I wasn't given IEP plans, but did ask prior about any SEN i should be aware of and the previous learning they had have. I was only told about 2 out of 3 stages of discipline (i wasn't aware of a on call system used). The kids didn't respond well when I did an AfL exercise to establish previous learning, they didn't even all have a pen- that lesson learnt-take spares! The kids were rude, swearing at each other, refusing to do tasks, I found out later that they thought i was a supply teacher that was trying to change the lesson they would normally have. (it's dance and i did creative work whilst they wanted hip-hop). I followed the school system of verbal and written warning, but without any ability to issue sanctions or knowing about the on-call system i couldn't take anything further. 2 students were late to lesson and I had students 'slagging' off my lesson in front of me to them (not that I had even got further than the starter at this point). The 2 students that were late wouldn't come out from behind the curtains- not sure how I could have managed 2 separate spaces at once (answers on postcard)

    Anyway, wish I had withdrawn my application but didn't want to say to the head how disgusted I was with the school (an outstanding ofsted inspection is a joke- there are some fantastic and lovely ideas there but these clearly have no respect for each other or teachers)

    I got feedback that I didn't put my authority on the lesson from the beginning. However, the kids were not prepared for this lesson and wanted to know constantly for the first 5 mins why they couldn't practice their assessment dance. After that they weren't interested one bit until i went and spoke to the observing students to ask what the next stage was, then managed to get an on call teacher to remove these students- who promptly put them back 2 mins later after I had explained the task, so not only now were they peeved with me reporting them (not fussed about that) but I has to re-explain the task again.

    Anyway, i've not interviewed before for teaching posts (other than my GTP and been at the school ever since), is this common practice to expected a non CRB cleared teacher for that school to lead a class (and supervise students changing) with no backup from the teacher or full guidance on discipline procedures? Just so I know before I apply next time!

  2. missmunchie

    missmunchie New commenter

    Poor you.
    I've no advice except to say that I think it would be better NOT to get a job at a school like this.
    Remember interviews are a two way process!
    Hope your next interview lesson goes better.
  3. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Remember that.
    Many years ago I walked away from a school, just before the interview having decided it wasn't for me. They wanted full-time & I'd asked for a reduced timetable which, although I'd previously discussed, I was told was not available from theactual people on the interview panel. Both the other candidates needed the job-young NQT & single mum, so I had no qualms about walking away.
  4. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Not normal, and not fair.
    I think you deserve a medal for sticking it out.
    Congratulations on not getting the job - how awful if you had to actually work there every day!
    A lucky escape.
    Best wishes
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.
    Go to https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.
    Look forward to seeing you!
  5. superewok

    superewok New commenter

    Clairelou, I read your post and it really reminded me of what happened when I was applying for jobs as an eager NQT. I was applying for primary jobs in London. After many occasions of not even hearing back from schools, I was called for interview. Usual stuff... teach a lesson and interview. Lesson was a total disaster... children were verbally abusive, one threw a chair, other kids were simply uninterested and couldn't care less about what I was teaching. And yet, when they said I didn't have the job, I was gutted. Why? I think back now and I'm truly thankful that I didn't get the job! If I'd have been offered it, I'd have probably taken it and regretted it. Now I work in a fantastic school in South London with amazing staff, supportive management and wonderful, inspiring children. Work is challenging, yet I feel very lucky and very happy!

    Learn from the experience, and look forward to the next interview :eek:)
  6. David Getling

    David Getling Lead commenter

    Wow, Clarelou, why on earth would you want to work in a hell-hole like this?

    Currently I do some supply, and to get to the school I have to get up at 5.30: and the pay isn't that much. BUT, I go in with a smile on my face because it's a wonderful school with great kids that I really enjoy teaching.

    I'd sooner work double shifts in MacDonald's than even consider the kind of school you have just described. Good luck for the future, but be a bit more fussy. You've only got one, all too short, life to enjoy!
  7. It sounds vile. About three years ago, I went for an interview at a hell hole where kids were eating food, putting their feet on chairs and tables, yelling across the room, listening to music on their phones and point blank refusing to get into seats and open their books. All this was going on with the head of dept and deputy head at the back of the room. I decided I didn't want to work at a school like that and withdrew. You have had a VERY lucky escape by seeing what behaviour at the school was really like from the outset.

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