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delaying school entry

Discussion in 'Special educational needs' started by boatmanco, Jun 5, 2011.

  1. boatmanco

    boatmanco New commenter

    <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td class="post">Hello
    I need some advice please.
    The parents of a little boy in Nursery would like to delay entry to primary school as he has Autism and they are in the process of getting a statement. My questions are:
    Will this effect the statementing process?
    Will he have to go into year 1 in a years time?
    Will they have to reapply to the primary school of their choice?
    Will the Nursery continue to get funding for 1:1 support?
    I am concerned as the parents have only just brought this up and am unsure there will even be a place at the Nursery for him as the cohort group are full. If the Nursery is full do we still have to "find" him a place as he already on role? We are an independent nursery.
    Many thanks
  2. I don't think it will affect the statementing process, but I'm not sure. I do know that he won't necessarily have to go into Year 1 - but do you know yet whether they want him to, or not? Do they feel he just isn't ready yet?
    There's a term to describe being put into a year group other than the age-related one, but I forget what that is - 'uncoupling' or something like that?
    I'm surprised that an independent nursery already receives funding for 1:1 support - statement funding isn't (or didn't used to be?) paid to independent schools. Has that changed?
    Sorry - I'm not really helping, and just seem to be asking even more questions! But I'm just interested in the situation :)
    [aka nosey]
  3. katycustard

    katycustard Occasional commenter

    I don't know when it changed jazz, but yes it has! Some LAs provide 1:1 support in the form of a person, others provide extra funding and indpendent schools/nurseries can pay staff to work extra sessions to meet the child's needs. This is not statementing funding, although children can now be statemented in private/independent/voluntary settings/schools.
    Local Authority schools and nursery schools don't get this 1:1 support funding becuase they already have SEN funding in their budget.
    Hope this has satisfied your curiosity! (A much nicer word than nosey!)
  4. Entry to Reception is not statutory until the term after the child's fifth birthday so it can be postponed until such time unless the child is a summer baby in which case (in a maintained school) the parents would need to reapply with the next years cohort for a place in school. In an Indi I suppose that would be up to the school.
    In a maintained school in our LA any child who defers for the full year (and therefore has to reapply for a school place) will only get a place in Yr1 - though it would be at the discretion of the school as to whether or not the child spent some or all of their time in the Reception class. The reason for this is so that the child leaves school in his/her chronological age group as secondary schools are not obliged to take children out of year group and, where this happens, can insist that a Yr7 child transitioning as part of a Yr6 class starts school in their chronological age group (Yr8).
    Similalry in our LA the nursery (whether PVI or maintained) would not get any additional funding that should be following the child into school.
    Not sure that helps - it clearly seems that there are regional variations.
    As far as the SA process goes this decision makes no difference at all. I guess from the nursery perspective they also have to determine (depending on when the child attains statutory school age) if they are registered for this age group and also how they will fulfil the requirements of having a school aged child in their setting - completing the EYFS Profile in the summer term etc.
  5. boatmanco

    boatmanco New commenter

    Thank you for all your replies.
    It is tricky as he has severe SEN (in my opinion) and will not be ready next year either (again in my opinion). His parents have a place at a local school with a seperate unit so I am unsure why they want to delay him starting, especially when we are an independent Nursery. Although we are doing the best we can with him he would get specialist help in the unit. I am visiting the school tomorrow so hope after that I can persuade parents to see that the school unit is the best place for him. My worry is that if she decides to delay he will loose this place. The whole SEN team are pulling their hair out -ah well, we'll see!
    Thanks again. :)
  6. It's a tricky one! Perhaps it would be useful for someone to ask Mum what it is she thinks she will get out of delaying or defering school entry. I don't mean that in a nasty way but understanding her motivation might help to make sense of why this has just come to light now. You never know she might have met someone who said 'why don't you...' without necesssarily having full knowldge of the implications or the child.
    Also understanding what she hopes to get out of it may mean you are in a position to support her better. Sometimes what parents think will happen because of a choice they make is actually not at all the reality - a bit like when parents think that having a child attend a nursrey class at a school means they will definately get a place in that school.
    Ultimately the choice is theirs (subject of course to you having spaces for the child) but understanding where their at in their thinking might be useful..........on the other hand it might not help at all! :)
    Have parents visited the other school and the unit? I assume so if they have put his name down but maybe that's another thing to suggest if they haven't. Have you told them what you think they will be better able to do for him that you can't? Parents may think that you've done such a great job that it would be a shame to move him without realising what other possibilities might be opened up to him by the change. Just some thoughts!
  7. or even 'they're'
  8. Glad it's worked out.

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