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Discussion in 'New teachers' started by bingo48, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Hello,
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    </font>I am a final year trainee, and I am just starting to look
    and apply for jobs. The course that I am doing is key stage 2/3 and have specialised in Art. It has been in incredibly
    course!


    In all of my primary and
    secondary placements have achieved
    either good or outstanding overall, and I thoroughly enjoy teaching both key
    stage 2 and key stage 3 art and cannot decide which area to apply for. I would really like opinions of both primary
    and secondary teachers- what is your job satisfaction like? The work load? Etc.</font>


    I would appreciate any advice or comments that may help in the future :)
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    </font>Thanks!
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  2. Hello,
    <font size="3" face="Times New Roman">

    </font>I am a final year trainee, and I am just starting to look
    and apply for jobs. The course that I am doing is key stage 2/3 and have specialised in Art. It has been in incredibly
    course!


    In all of my primary and
    secondary placements have achieved
    either good or outstanding overall, and I thoroughly enjoy teaching both key
    stage 2 and key stage 3 art and cannot decide which area to apply for. I would really like opinions of both primary
    and secondary teachers- what is your job satisfaction like? The work load? Etc.</font>


    I would appreciate any advice or comments that may help in the future :)
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    </font>
    <font size="3" face="Times New Roman">

    </font>Thanks!
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  3. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    If you apply for primary posts you are highly unlikely to be able to just teach art. Will you enjoy teaching maths or PE just as much? What about if the HT moves you to year 1 in your second year?

    Now I love teaching in primary and wouldn't go back to secondary for all the tea in China. However I like teaching all subjects (well ok outdoor PE in February isn't exactly enjoyable!) not just art.

    If you love your subject then you might be better off in secondary.
     
  4. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    I'm possibly stating the obvious, but any secondary post you apply for will expect you to teach up to KS4 (and to A level, if it has a sixth form).
    You'll need in your application to convince them that, despite no experience during your training, you'd still be good at it.
     
  5. Thank you both for your opinions and response! I see both sides of the argument really, but I do love teaching and the enjoyment it can bring! A few of my friends from uni have just secured jobs in both a primary and secondary school, and I know it is down to personal preference! Would just like some more advice regarding both key stages if possible?

    Thanks again!
     
  6. GloriaSunshine

    GloriaSunshine New commenter

    Are you prepared to move anywhere in the country to get a job? If not, have you taken into account the possibilities for employment where you want to live? Your're going to find secondary difficult because you won't have ks4/5 experience (I think there are fewer vacancies this year because of EBacc but jot sure if that's frue everywhe) and primary is competitive, so you may be better off applying for everything and looking at ways of moving if you decide to move key stages.
     
  7. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    I know of Primary schools that now use their TAs to teach Art and RE in the PPA slots of the class teachers.
    I've known teachers in Secondary to just be allocated KS3 classes for Art but it's usually those who are part-time or who teach another subject for the rest of their timetable. I doubt you'd be bale to be a f/t KS3 Art teacher ina standard-sized Secondary school as there are usually two classes from the same year group being taught at the smae time (by 2 teachers). You'd need one of the huge 10 or 12 form entry schools for there to be enough KS3 classes for you to be solely teaching that age range - and that presupposes that other Art teachers at the school would be happy having fewer KS3 classes (or none at all).
    Has you training for KS2 involved you teaching other subjects too (Literacy/ Numeracy)?
     
  8. Thanks for the replies everyone, yes my training has included all subjects in ks2, not just art :)
     
  9. Two options to think about are middle school teaching (there are a few middle schools still around in the state sector) or private prep schools where often they run across KS2 andup to year 7 or 8 at KS3.
    An alternative would be to think about looking for posts as a transition teacher in a secondary school some schools now employ people with KS2-3 training to teach a primary model in the first year or so of secondary.
    James
     

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