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Dear Theo, trying to break through from mainstream to independent

Discussion in 'Independent' started by bluerubies, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. Dear Theo,
    I have made the difficult decision to develop my teaching and children's learning by applying to work in private schools. For me, the smaller class sizes and pupil motivation are the major reasons for this decision. I had an interview at a respected private school in Surrey, however did not get it. I suspect I was shortlisted as I live in Hampshire to 'pull in numbers' so to speak. I am moving to Surrey in August, hence my decision to work in this area.

    I will continue applying for jobs, however have only three years experience in my current mainstream school so am considering my options.
    1. Should I take the time (being in a priviledged position living with parents) to complete the 1 year masters MSc Education? Hopefully with this, I will be able to get my foot in the door and prove my commitment to my dream (which is working in a private school).
    2. Or, do I keep trying to apply for private schools until I eventually get one (again, I am in the priviledged position where my parents can support me financially until the right job comes up).

    My current school has real behavioural issues, and I know all schools are not like that but I am not enjoying going to work. I love being a teacher and am worried that remaining at the school will put me off teaching, therefore I have made the decision to hand in my notice at Easter regardless of future employment. I know this is a risk, however it is something I really want and my heart isn't in mainstream school education anymore. The interview at the private school proved to me where I want to teach.

    Thank you for taking the time to read my lengthy post!
     
  2. Dear Theo,
    I have made the difficult decision to develop my teaching and children's learning by applying to work in private schools. For me, the smaller class sizes and pupil motivation are the major reasons for this decision. I had an interview at a respected private school in Surrey, however did not get it. I suspect I was shortlisted as I live in Hampshire to 'pull in numbers' so to speak. I am moving to Surrey in August, hence my decision to work in this area.

    I will continue applying for jobs, however have only three years experience in my current mainstream school so am considering my options.
    1. Should I take the time (being in a priviledged position living with parents) to complete the 1 year masters MSc Education? Hopefully with this, I will be able to get my foot in the door and prove my commitment to my dream (which is working in a private school).
    2. Or, do I keep trying to apply for private schools until I eventually get one (again, I am in the priviledged position where my parents can support me financially until the right job comes up).

    My current school has real behavioural issues, and I know all schools are not like that but I am not enjoying going to work. I love being a teacher and am worried that remaining at the school will put me off teaching, therefore I have made the decision to hand in my notice at Easter regardless of future employment. I know this is a risk, however it is something I really want and my heart isn't in mainstream school education anymore. The interview at the private school proved to me where I want to teach.

    Thank you for taking the time to read my lengthy post!
     
  3. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Sorry life is so tough for you. And sorry that you had a disappointing experience when you applied for the indy school. I shouldn't put too much store by the "making numbers" idea - you got short;listed, but sometimes other people are just better on the day.
    Q1 If you can do this the moment you stop working, then "Yes", as it also gives a reason for giving up your other job. Being unemployed is a disadvantage when applying for another job, unless you can justify it.
    Q2 Don't give up applying - use my advice in the Welcome thread on JobSeekers to get your application as good as it can be.
    You may also wish to consider (since you are privileged, with the support of your parents perhaps!) whether it is worth investing in a one-to-one with me.
    Dear Everyone... I met TheoGriff!
    If you are so serious about this, and actually going to hand in your notice, then this is an investment in your future that could be very valuable for you. You can contact Julia on advice@tsleducation.com and talk it over with her.
    Best wishes.
    ____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.
    Go to https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.
    Look forward to seeing you!

    Best wishes.
    ____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.
    Go to https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  4. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Dear me, dear me, that tag seems to have multiplied itself!
    Just thought - you may wish to read this too:
    https://community.tes.co.uk/forums/t/462081.aspx?PageIndex=1#6408371
    ____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.
    Go to https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  5. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Just to add to Theo's point: I very much doubt that you were interviewed "to make up numbers". Many respected indies have large numbers of applications for most teaching jobs (more than 100 for my post when I retired a few years ago, and I expect competition is even worse in 2011), so it's highly unlikely that anyone was interviewed who didn't have potential for the post.
    The fact that you were short-listed for interview should be seen in a positive light!
    One small point. I wouldn't refer to the sectors as "mainstream" and "independent" - "maintained" and "independent" is more common. Some heads might feel a bit miffed if you thought their school was in some sort of side stream (or backwater!) [​IMG]
     
  6. This, absolutely. They know exactly what they want, and won't waste anyone's time, least of all their own by shortlisting to make up numbers. I've just started at an indie, and there were two of us interviewed, out of a field of twenty (I think).
     
  7. MrsChatelier

    MrsChatelier New commenter

    <font size="2">I've just made exactly this leap. I left my post at my last maintained school in August and have just got a job at an independent to start in April. I wasn't asked about my decision to leave with no post to go to (though did of course have an answer ready!). While totally understanding where you are coming from with the behavioural aspects I think it's important for the indi school to see you don't expect their children to be angels - at the end of the day teenagers don't like homework and can be rude everywhere and it's important they don't get the impression you are unrealistic and looking for an easy life (which I wasn't but I'd had enough of flying chairs etc!)</font><font size="2">On the shortlisting one thing I noticed in this process is that this is an area where you see there are fewer rules to follow in this indi sector. My LEA insists on interviewing 5 people no matter what but the indi interviews I did had varying numbers depending on strength of field.</font><font size="2"> </font><font size="2">Good luck!</font>
     
  8. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Yes.
    Pilgrims, not Refugees is what every Head wants.
    ____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Applications Workshop I'm doing that still has vacancies is on Friday 25th February. www.tesweekendworkshop15.eventbrite.com


    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for more details of how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     

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