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Dear Theo - they don't have enough of my subject so is there any point?

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by teacher5060, Jan 20, 2012.

  1. Hello Theo

    I am considering applying for a job managing a school sixth form. There was no mention of a specific subject, or any teaching at all, in the advert but I phoned up to ask and was told you would get maybe 5 hours remission.

    The problem is my subject is only taught in the sixth form where they have just 2 classes and so I am thinking there is no point in applying - am I wrong?

    This does seem strange to me as I wonder how can they take anyone on who doesn't teach a subject they don’t already have a need for?

    Apologies if this obvious to school people I come from a SFC background.

    Thanks in advance and best wishes
     
  2. Hello Theo

    I am considering applying for a job managing a school sixth form. There was no mention of a specific subject, or any teaching at all, in the advert but I phoned up to ask and was told you would get maybe 5 hours remission.

    The problem is my subject is only taught in the sixth form where they have just 2 classes and so I am thinking there is no point in applying - am I wrong?

    This does seem strange to me as I wonder how can they take anyone on who doesn't teach a subject they don’t already have a need for?

    Apologies if this obvious to school people I come from a SFC background.

    Thanks in advance and best wishes
     
  3. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Is there no other subject that you could teach?
    You are right that a school needs to calculate the cost of its staffing, and that includes having FT staff with a FT timetable, made up of teaching hours plus any remission for responsibility.
    If by 2 classes, you mean 2 A-level groups - that's 10 hours. Or maybe 8. If this is in each year, there's a timetable.
    It depends how keen you are on the job. If it is clear that there would not be anything like a FT tt for you, then perhaps you had better not apply, save your energy. But if it is just possible, then go for it! They might find an additional few hours for either teaching or remission if they feel that you are just perfect for them.
    Have you been reading all the advice, by the way? I'll give an outline below:
    My advice on writing applications is contained mainly in the shortlisting clickables inside the welcome thread here on this Forum.
    For an effective application, you should send:
    • an application form with every bit filled in, no "See letter"
    • an application letter OR personal statement. Not both but certainly one of them.
    • a cover letter ONLY if you do a personal statement. See FAQs inside the Welcome thread
    • an Executive summary. If there's a space on the form, put it in there; if not, put it at the end of your letter so that it gets printed out automatically. The shortlisting clickables explain about this.
    As a summary of the steps to take in getting a job:
    Point 1 Are you getting notification of all possible jobs? Do several JobAlerts here on the TES Forum, for all your subjects, and then repeat them all for the independent schools. * * * * How to set up a Job Alert * * * * is at the top of the page
    Point 2 Are you following the advice in the shortlisting clickables inside the Welcome thread?
    Lots of posters have found it gets them interviews - and jobs. Headteachers say that they appreciate candidates who do what I advise.
    Please take Theo's advice!
    taking Theo's Advice
    The benefit of an executive summary
    read theo's advice and do the executive summary people, it really does work, seriously!!!!
    Dear Theo: Executive summary works- I have an interview
    Point 3 Have you tried doing an interview practice with someone who will give you blunt feedback? You'll need to get ready for when you do get an interview. You might, for example, being doing something quite simple, like screwing up your face in a glare when you are conisdering an answer, which can be very off-putting. And which a school is unlikely to tell you about.
    Point 4 And then, if all has failed because you are already doing all this, then you should be thinking of getting on a train or a coach to come to the application seminars: the next one of Winning That Teaching Job is quite soon: Saturday 25 February, it will be led by me. ThIt is just before the February 29 resignation date, so you are all fresh for any new jobs that come up then.
    www.tes.co.uk/careerseminars
    Going to a seminar has worked for many posters
    Dear Theo.....I got the job!!!!!
    Course, the thought of meeting me might be a big No-No!
    www.tesweekendworkshop87.eventbrite.com<font size="2" color="#0000ff"> </font>
    There is interview training too in the afternoon that day:
    www.tesweekendworkshop86.eventbrite.com
    Point 6 Finally, you might like to open your piggy bank and come for a One-to-One session with me or someone else from the team. Again, people have found this helpful:
    Sign upto one of Theo's 1-2-1s....... JUST DO IT
    Dear Everyone... I met TheoGriff!
    Theo and tremendous support
    Theo's 'One to One' careers service....
    Now the last two cost money, and although it is worth it (just calculate the difference between JSA and a NQT salary . . .), it always makes sense to try out the free advice first!
    ___________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Seminars. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
    www.tes.co.uk/careerseminars
    Best wishes
    __________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Seminars. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
    www.tes.co.uk/careerseminars
     

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