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Dear Theo, switching from secondary to primary...

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by RonnieTheRedPanda, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. RonnieTheRedPanda

    RonnieTheRedPanda New commenter

    Dear Theo,
    I am a secondary MFL teacher with 20 years' experience, and I want to switch to primary teaching. I have taught MFL to Years 5 and 6 for about 7 years, and as I work part-time, I have been spending my day off once a week in a local primary school, teaching French to Years 2 and 3 and doing general helping in all classes from nursery upwards. What advice can you give about anything else I need to do and what would be my chances of getting a primary job? Are there any conversion courses and are they necessary? Many thanks.
     
  2. RonnieTheRedPanda

    RonnieTheRedPanda New commenter

    Dear Theo,
    I am a secondary MFL teacher with 20 years' experience, and I want to switch to primary teaching. I have taught MFL to Years 5 and 6 for about 7 years, and as I work part-time, I have been spending my day off once a week in a local primary school, teaching French to Years 2 and 3 and doing general helping in all classes from nursery upwards. What advice can you give about anything else I need to do and what would be my chances of getting a primary job? Are there any conversion courses and are they necessary? Many thanks.
     
  3. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Not Theo, but I am a fellow linguist.
    Are you prepared to teach all subjects across the whole curriculum, offering MFL expertise?
    When the new governement failed to ratify the legal requirement to 'compulsory MFL', they are at present still merely 'entitlement'.The plain fact is, that languages are simply not a priority at the moment
    and you'll need to diversify if you want to work in Primary. I'd thought a few years back, that my MFL would be my key to re-entering the profession after my family, but this has not proved to be the case.
    There are vast numbers of Primary trained teachers chasing comparatively few jobs. They do have their pick out of vast numbers of candidates applying & you'll need to show a proven track record of teaching right across the curriculum.
    There is also some evidence that languages are best taught by the class teacher, rather than a specialist, so many schools only use their MFL specialist to write the SoW & provide suggestions for resources, provide training etc.
     
  4. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    This is really a Career question rather than Job Seeking, and if you go to the Career Clinic and do a search on either Primary or Secondary, you will find masses of people have asked the same question.
    Or just scroll down the first page - there's almost certainly a thread there about it.
    It is the most commonly asked question on his Forum, Prof Howson tells me.
    And the answer is not what you want to hear.
    No, not necessary as QTS means that you are qualified to teach Primary as well as Secondary.
    No, there aren't any (although there used to be) because there is no need for them. There are very very many unemployed Primary teachers out there. I heard two weeks ago about a school who received 500 applications when they advertised 2 posts.
    500
    And (here's the blunt bit, I'm afraid), why would a school consider you when they will receive so many applications from people who are Primary trained and experienced - experienced and trained across the whole of the Primary curriculum?
    You could try jacking in your job and doing Primary supply to get more experience - but you will find that even for trained and experienced Primary teachers, supply work is very thin on the ground - just go over to the Supply Forum and see.
    My answer is not very hopeful, just what you didn't want me to say, I'm afraid.
    Just be thankful that you have a job at all. In these difficult times, there are unemployed teachers, NQTs who finished training 2.5 years ago and still ahven't been able to start induction, and teachers who got redundancy letters this week.
    Count your blessings, including the blessing of the time that you DO spend in Primary.
    Best wishes
    _____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    By popular demand! In response to Tessers e-mailing in: another Job Seminar now on Saturday 14th May:
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    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
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    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  5. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
    I´m sorry to hear that. It is so difficult for people nowadays to get jobs, and being made redundant just makes you feel awful, apart from the job hunting.
    Best wishes
    _____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    By popular demand! In response to Tessers e-mailing in: another Job Seminar now on Saturday 14th May:
    www.tesweekendworkshop25.eventbrite.com
    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
    http://tesweekendworkshop24.eventbrite.com/
    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     

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