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Dear Theo: "Known as"

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by LadyValkyrie, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. Theo, three of the LAs I'm applying to have a section on their application form for "known as". It comes straight after title, first name and last name. There are two posts in two of these LAs I want to apply to this week and, having sent off lots of applications so far this year and not even had an interview, I want to make sure I'm not making silly little mistakes that get my applications binned.
    So, could you clear up for me what this section is asking for? Does it mean the name you are "known as" as a teacher, ie. Mrs.....? Or does it mean the name you are known as if you go by something other than your legal name - in which case if you go by your legal name you would just write N/A?
    Another quick question - I am currently studying the TDA's Return to Teaching course with Edge Hill University. These two LAs' forms are also particularly unclear around education, qualifications and relevant training. Do I list my RTT under education or under relevant training?
    Similarly I am currently studying with the Open University towards a Diploma in Music, so the qualification is as yet incomplete. Should I list this under education/qualifications as "in progress", or would it be better not to list it and just mention it in my letter of application if the person spec is asking for Music specialism or commitment to CPD?
    I am at the stage where I have written so many applications and heard nothing, I'm questioning everything I write on them.
  2. MayKasahara

    MayKasahara New commenter

    The only one of your questions I think I can help with is the "known as" one. As far as I know you would only use it if you prefer to be called by shortened form of your name (e.g. Catherine might be "known as" Kate and William "known as" Will) or by your middle name.
    It's no consolation but there are thousands of others in the same predicament at the moment. Good luck with your applications!
  3. Thanks, that does at least clear up one of the points!
    I know from what I've read here that many of us are in the same position. It could simply be that there've been 100+ candidates for each job I've gone for and too many other people who had the "x-factor" those particular schools wanted for me to get shortlisted as an M6 teacher who's been out for a few years...but when you have no way of knowing why you didn't get shortlisted it's best to cover all bases and check, then check again, that your answers are correct!
  4. Known as just means what do you want to be called instead of your official name? E.g One of my friends at University was Taiwanese and called I-shan but she called herself Erika, so she would write Erika in the known as box. Alternatively, some people prefer to be called by their middle name instead of their first name. E.g. My dad's former girlfriend was called Jan but her real name was Susan (Jan was her middle name).
    I always leave this box blank and have never failed to be shortlisted for this reason, so I wouldn't worry about it. I'm guessing that the real reason is to do with the number and quality of applicants completing for the same job as you (not suggesting you're rubbish just that the jobs you applied for were extremely popular and attracted good candidates like yourself), or maybe for other political reasons which we'll never know about.
    Hope this clears things up!
    Good luck!
  5. Yes, it clears things up on that point. Don't worry, I know what you mean about the number and calibre of candidates! As I said earlier, I'm sure that IS why I don't get shortlisted, but it just makes me feel better if I know I'm doing everything right in the first place if you know what I mean.
  6. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Good answer already given for the Known As bit!
    I would consider it like Inset, so under training.
    Yes, put it under education/Quals as in progress.
    Congratulations on doing that, by the way!
    Have you been reading and following the advice in the shortlisting clickables inside the Welcome thread? This has helped loads of posters to get interviews!
    Good luck to you

    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.

    do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and often contribute to the
    Job Application Seminar Workshops. We look at application letters,
    executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people
    really appreciate.

    See the full programme www.tes.co.uk/careerseminars

    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.

    Look forward to seeing you!

  7. Thanks Theo, that's really helpful and I will do as you've said on my current application. I'm enjoying all the study but getting quite burnt out at this point! (3 weeks to go on the RTT course).
    Yes, I've read and re-read the shortlisting advice on here, I do the exec summaries, I read the forms and letters from school and person spec etc really carefully. I've checked with my referees that I'm still ok to use them as a reference. I check and double-check for grammar/typo/spelling errors.
    I think one of my problems is that I have a tendency to waffle and to want to say everything I've ever achieved on every application and you just can't! I'm really trying to be focused with this one and just talk about things that are relevant to what they want, and keep the sentences short.
  8. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    That's good!
    I wish you the very best of luck this time.
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the
    Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive
    summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really


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