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Dear Theo - Questions for my first 'One last go' application.

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by welshchocoholic1, Nov 13, 2011.

  1. welshchocoholic1

    welshchocoholic1 Senior commenter

    Ok so in the first of my <u>'last go'</u> applications, there are as usual some things I need to ask if that's ok? It's for an Independent School. Not had <u>any</u> experience of these before, and doubt they would want someone like me, but feel I should give it a go anyway. Sorry if my questions' seem obvious to you.
    Q1. 'Curriculum Strengths should be in English, and experience of teaching across KS1 and KS2 would be an advantage although expertise in other areas are also welcome. Ok so are they talking about the other areas of expertise being in another Curriculum area, or that they don't mind receiving applications from Secondary trained teachers- or is this just what I am hoping[​IMG]?
    Q2. They say in the briefly 'If you would like to arrange a visit, please make an appointment by calling XXXX' , now usually that would be fine, but I thought that Independent Schools were not keen on visits. Do they want you to visit, or are they just being polite?
    Q3. I have no idea who my present employer is[​IMG]!?
    Q4. They talk about form tutors. I was never a form tutor in a primary school, but I was one with the same form group from Year 7-9. Should I mention something about this in my letter of application?
    Q5. (Last question, I promise (for the moment)!) They ask for a letter of application. I know what this is (I think) but on the <strike>stupid </strike>grey bit it says,
    listing all information relevant to the application,
    and any other information you may wish to provide. It would be in your
    interests to provide as full a statement as possible at this stage.

    indicate if there are any attachments - Do I tell them that I have actually attached the letter and the executive summary?

    The person spec for this one is hard[​IMG]!
    Sorry for all the questions, and if they sound a bit stupid[​IMG]!!!
  2. lilykitty

    lilykitty New commenter

    I would read this as: they're looking for someone with English as a degree / subject focus. In addition, they want someone with KS1 / KS2 experience but will consider other experience. I would take the comma after 'English' as separating the two points.
    Q2 - if they didn't want visits, they wouldn't invite them!
    Q3 - if you don't know, I certainly don't!
    Q4 - most state primaries don't have form tutors as they have a class teacher who teaches all subjects. Many Prep schools have different teachers for different subjects and so work more like a secondary in this sense, making the 'form tutor' role more important, so definitely mention it.
    Q5 - I wouldn't tell them I was attaching a letter in the letter! I would say I was attaching an application form and executive summary.
    Hope this helps. I hate application forms!
  3. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Thoe's so much better to answer, but as he's already been on here today and you probably want to 'crack on' with your applications, we'll see if I can help at all- bearing in mind it's not expert just based on my own experience.
    1 Curriculum strengths in English. Look at any posts involving English specialism you've done and of course by being a linguist, of course you have strengths in English grammar (and possibly Lit. as we're asked to do the same tasks, just our texts are in another language). Asthey actually mention KS1 & 2 I would imagine for 'experience in other areas' KS3 & 4 would count, plus any other subject strengths you've gained during your supply work in Primary.
    2 I think this is quite unusual, unless they're now becoming aware that state schools do this and have decided it might be a good idea. You'd be shown round the school at interview anyway.
    3 Present employer. Are you registered with the LA supply pool or an agency? Either one might do? (Unless Theo says different)
    4 Form tutor is just about pastoral care - very important in Indies, so use your experience of being a form tutor in Y7-9. Responsibilities are pretty similar, whatever age range after all.
    Letter of application - That's a moot point. what any school means by that seems to be variable.See Theo's clickables but when I applied to an Indy I took my letter of application to mean what attracted me to the school, the post. What I could offer the school, experience etc. Though again willing to be corrected by Theo.
  4. welshchocoholic1

    welshchocoholic1 Senior commenter

    Thanks both lilykitty and Lara for your advice. Hhm I have an A Level in English Literature, and taught Year 7-11 English/English Literature for a year. Would this count? Right will mention about being a form tutor. Thanks both again x
  5. welshchocoholic1

    welshchocoholic1 Senior commenter

    . .. ....and now my computer wont log out of the TES website! Think It's trying to tell me something [​IMG]!
  6. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Ok, let's look at this.
    Q1 What have you ever done with English? Devised and shared any SoW? Led anything in any school ever - a unit of a programme, or done theatre work? Actually they will be surprised to have a secondary trained teacher applying, so . . . you don't have to say that you are (after all the QTS is valid for all the key stages). Just emphasise your experience at KS1 and KS2, and also in yrs 7 and 8 - explain how flexible you are and how you have understanding of progression. This should be a good point in your favour.
    Q2 You must visit if you can. Indies don't usually expect or want visits, so if they mention it, it really is because they want you to go.
    Q3 Supply agency it will be - but name the schools you've been at. So: ABC Supply agency - recently at St John's Infants Yr1 and Greengates Primary Yr 3. And remember that thread about how to show off the skills from the supply . . .Dear Theo- work history too bitty and too much supply- help!
    Q4 Say you are extremely keen on providing all-round support and pastoral care for pupils, and communicating with their parents. You were Form Tutor for the same children for two years, and developed strong relationships with them and their parents, from teaching them, from being their Form Tutor, and from participating in extra-curricular activities. Or something on those lines.
    Q5 At the end of the letter, say: I also attach a summary of how my experience meets your requirements. If you are e-mailing everything, say this in the body of the e-mail:
    Dear Mr Griff
    Teacher of KS1, Greengates School
    I wish to apply for the above post and attach my completed application form, letter of application, and summary.
    Yours sincerely,
    W Chocoholic.
    Now go to the Independent Forum (there's that same old baldy smiling at the top of the page!) and read their Welcome thread.
    Afterwards, do a search on that forum for applications - you'll see that you will need to emphasise the extra-curricular contribution that you can make. A Spanish club? Penfriends? Crochet, knitting, pottery? Tell them how keen you are to be part of the wider experience of the pupils. Look at their website to see what is important to them in the extra-curricular line - which they may call extra-curricular, or Clubs and Activities, or co-curricular - check and use the same words.
    Off you go!
    Best wishes
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Seminars. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
  7. welshchocoholic1

    welshchocoholic1 Senior commenter

    [​IMG] Thankyou so much once again for all your help Theo! It is very kind of you. Definitely a bit clearer now.
    Yes boss [​IMG]! x

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