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Dear Theo: Is it worth applying?

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by Ultrafin, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. Dear Theo,

    I have been out of teaching for 11 years whilst raising my family. I am an English teacher with 6 years teaching experience and spent 3 years as KS3 Coordinator and 2nd in Dept. At the moment I am doing day to day supply as a way of getting back into the classroom.

    However I currently do not have an education professional reference, so have secured a place on an OU Teach Again refreshers course which will give me my reference. This will be completed by July 2012.

    My question is, having recently applied for a temporary English teaching post, for which my specialist literacy experience seemed ideally matched, and not even managed to get shortlisted, despite including an executive summary, should I wait until I have completed the OU course and have a education reference before applying for any more teaching posts?

    There is another temporary English teacher position I could apply for, but I don't want to be rejected again, and then have the schools know me as a "reject". Or should I just apply for everything I am qualified to do, and accept it is the job market not my lack of a reference that is the problem.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Dear Theo,

    I have been out of teaching for 11 years whilst raising my family. I am an English teacher with 6 years teaching experience and spent 3 years as KS3 Coordinator and 2nd in Dept. At the moment I am doing day to day supply as a way of getting back into the classroom.

    However I currently do not have an education professional reference, so have secured a place on an OU Teach Again refreshers course which will give me my reference. This will be completed by July 2012.

    My question is, having recently applied for a temporary English teaching post, for which my specialist literacy experience seemed ideally matched, and not even managed to get shortlisted, despite including an executive summary, should I wait until I have completed the OU course and have a education reference before applying for any more teaching posts?

    There is another temporary English teacher position I could apply for, but I don't want to be rejected again, and then have the schools know me as a "reject". Or should I just apply for everything I am qualified to do, and accept it is the job market not my lack of a reference that is the problem.

    Thanks.
     
  3. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Personally I wouldn't worry about the 'rejection' factor (I often say I could wallpaper a room with my 'thank you for your application, but on this occasion you were unsuccessful' and nowadays you usually don't even hear back. Years ago was a different factor, but now in 2011 with figures as high as 200 +applications quoted earlier in the year for every post, it is just extra tough.
    Keep applying, keep trying. Some people have had over 10 interviews before they've successfully secured a post and you can imagine how many applications!
    English is a core subject and less likely to have the cutbacks being experienced in other departments. Ensure you know about Functional skills as this is increasing in importance.
     
  4. Thanks Lara, I will look up functional skills.

    My initial reaction was persistence, but I thought as this forum exists and the advice from Theo that I have read is so good, I thought why not ask his advice as well before I wade into another application form.

    I remember when applying for my last promotion in 1998 I applied to over 10 jobs before I even got that interview, and that was from a much stronger position career wise.

    I will keep on trying.

    Just out of interest, do you know if anyone uses their supply agency as a reference? Surely your agency would have a good overview of your quality as a teacher? At the moment I get all my work from 1 agency who have now admitted to me that they send me in to their new schools in order to create repeat work for the agency, and 2 schools ask for me by name, so I would hope their opinion of me would be good.
     
  5. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Quite right and Theo <u>is</u> the expert.
    Those others of us,who post are more in the position of 'emotional support', that it's nothing wrong with you, we're all experiencing difficulties. from NQT to experienced mature and all varieties in-between.
    See what Theo says about an agency reference.
     
  6. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Well, here you have it in a nutshell: there are loads of recently-trained and recently-experienced teachers out there . . .
    Masses of things have changed in teaching in those years. Heads are so scared of Ofsted that they will plump most probably for the safer choice of those with recent experience who understand AfL and the latest specifications.
    Have you thought of exam marking as a way to get your experience in current specifications? (That's what they called syllabuses back in your time!).
    Don't worry about that - they won't think that at all.
    Don't you? I would have thought that you did . . . read on.
    Not if they can possibly avoid it! However, if you are doing supply and not giving any educational references at all, it must look rather fishy to anyone reading your applications.
    Yes, but they mostly limit themselves to writing the legal minimum: Ms Ultrafin has worked as a teacher of English for us since July 2011". So not a good idea to give the agency if you have someone else.
    So why don't you approach them to act as referee?
    Exactly! So you could ask them to write a reference!
    And don't forget to read this:
    Dear Theo- work history too bitty and too much supply- help!
    Best wishes
    ___________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Seminars. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
    www.tes.co.uk/careerseminars
     

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