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Dear Theo - conflicting information

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by dcarabine85, Jan 22, 2011.

  1. Dear Theo,
    Further to our discussion about QTLS vs QTS, I was dissapointed that I had been given incorrect information. This morning, whilst browsing around I came upon this short article - please note Theo, I have not tried to find something that contradicts you, I found this whilst exploring for qtls job roles and thought you may be able to clarfiy if this is different to what you know?
    http://careers.guardian.co.uk/teaching-jobs/forum/1f9b0ac7-6939-483a-99a8-1b6ed412b668
    <h1>Recognising the QLTS</h1>

    This was posted to the Guardian Careers Twitter account:

    @GuardianCareers why is QTLS not recognised in secondary schools when it allows you to teach 14+? app forms don't have it on!

    Can anyone out there help?
    14 June 2010 5:29PM





    This is the response I've received from the TDA:

    &ldquo;To
    be employed as a teacher in most secondary schools you need to have
    qualified teacher status (QTS). In order to gain QTS, you will need to
    meet a range of entry and training requirements, including meeting all
    of the standards for QTS. However, if you have QTLS you can be employed
    to work in a school at the headteacher&rsquo;s discretion.

    &ldquo;If
    you are a graduate and have QTLS you may be eligible to apply for a QTS
    training programme. A number of different programmes are available,
    like the Graduate Teacher Programme (GTP), which lets you work towards
    QTS while being employed by and working in a school. This can take as
    little as one term to complete depending on your prior experience.&rdquo;

    Does this help? Let me know if you have any further questions.

     
  2. Dear Theo,
    Further to our discussion about QTLS vs QTS, I was dissapointed that I had been given incorrect information. This morning, whilst browsing around I came upon this short article - please note Theo, I have not tried to find something that contradicts you, I found this whilst exploring for qtls job roles and thought you may be able to clarfiy if this is different to what you know?
    http://careers.guardian.co.uk/teaching-jobs/forum/1f9b0ac7-6939-483a-99a8-1b6ed412b668
    <h1>Recognising the QLTS</h1>

    This was posted to the Guardian Careers Twitter account:

    @GuardianCareers why is QTLS not recognised in secondary schools when it allows you to teach 14+? app forms don't have it on!

    Can anyone out there help?
    14 June 2010 5:29PM





    This is the response I've received from the TDA:

    &ldquo;To
    be employed as a teacher in most secondary schools you need to have
    qualified teacher status (QTS). In order to gain QTS, you will need to
    meet a range of entry and training requirements, including meeting all
    of the standards for QTS. However, if you have QTLS you can be employed
    to work in a school at the headteacher&rsquo;s discretion.

    &ldquo;If
    you are a graduate and have QTLS you may be eligible to apply for a QTS
    training programme. A number of different programmes are available,
    like the Graduate Teacher Programme (GTP), which lets you work towards
    QTS while being employed by and working in a school. This can take as
    little as one term to complete depending on your prior experience.&rdquo;

    Does this help? Let me know if you have any further questions.

     
  3. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    You're right - it does contradict!
    But it doesn't contradict me.
    It is an employee of (Government) TDA replying to the Guardian query who is contradicting the official information given to Heads on the (Government) Teachernet site.
    So Government contradicting Government!
    And since the second point in my earlier answer was from ASCL, also giving information to Heads, this is a real muddle!
    The info given to an individual teacher was one thing, two lots of official information given to Heads says another .
    I think that you're going to have to get a written answer from TDA to you personally, that you can include in any application, since the official information that Heads have is what they will probably base their decision on.
    Good luck!
    ____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.
    Go to https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  4. I know it doesn't contradict you,I mean the info you passed, hope yourealised I meant that! Its worth getting a written answer as you suggest, if I get an answer in favour of QTLS in schools then at least its something!
     

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