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Dear Theo and people in the know! A little advice please!!!

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by TediousMissD, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. TediousMissD

    TediousMissD New commenter

    Hey guys,

    Have found myself, much like everyone else reading the rants on here, in the unfortunate position of not having anything for September. It is my goal, like everyone else to have a permanent contract. I have worked as a supply and on longer term supply for about 3 years. I've got loads of experience and lots of great things to bring to the table and offer a school. I want more responsibility, I am a good practitioner and Im ready!!

    This doesnt mean anyone is ready to have me. I've sent A LOT of applications off, had a couple of unsucessful interviews (no contractive feedback) and some flat out refusal letters telling me that lots of people applied for the position.

    At the beginning of last week, I thought BLOW! Im going to have to go back to supply agencies and move home again. So I asked my lovely HOD to email all the other HOD's in the area and see if they needed any temp workers.I had 3 responses, its been a bit weird this week with strike action etc etc, but one school wants to interview me for a 3 month contract- its a proper full day interview next week.

    Just to throw a spanner in the works, TES have had a last minute flurry this week with all sorts of suitable positions, fixed term, temp and permanent, all of which I have duly applied for.

    My worry is that the school I am due to interview at next week will offer me a position, then I'll be invited to interview somewhere else later in the week. Lots of interview dates for this new positions are later in the week. I know this is wishful thinking and very premptive of me!! But I am worried.

    My HOD said, accept everything, tell any fixed term/permanent positions you'll start the second week in Sept, then start the temp one and give a weeks notice on the first day (in accordance to contract). This I feel is a bit unprofessional and will let the school down-potentiall blacklisting me in my area and messing everything up. Its not my style. I was also told by our office goddess that I should just accept and phone them over the summer and tell them my circumstances have changes. She said she wouldn't be surprised if anyone did it to them and it wouldn't matter. Im not sure whats acceptable, especially given that the school my interview is at would have got in non specialist supply for Sept.

    Please advise, I want a job and the best and longest one possible for obvious reasons, but I dont want to be unprofessional or stupid.
    Thank you :) (Sorry its an essay)
  2. anon8315

    anon8315 Established commenter

    You don't want to let schools down - that is understandable - however personally I would always understand somebody taking a permanent contract over a temporary so on this I agree with your HOD x
  3. This is utterly unacceptable and totally unprofessional. Not to mention unfair to those other teachers seeking a job. If you accept three different job offers (god forbid) on temporary contracts and do the above in September - I am sorry but you are sick in the head in even entertaining this for a second. People that do this sort of thing should be permanently blacklisted and also reported to the GTC for being unprofessional. This can cost someone very dearly.
  4. TediousMissD

    TediousMissD New commenter

    Im not sick in the head!! Im questioning the sense of my HOD!

    This is not something I intend to do at all. I dont want to mess anyone around. I do still want the best for myself, and I am still applying for jobs!!!

    We'll see how the interview goes, guess I'll accept it or I wont!
  5. I know......but your HOD is.
  6. TediousMissD

    TediousMissD New commenter

    Ah.....interesting, thank you for the advice!
  7. My solution to this type of dilemma a few years ago was to apply for all, accept the job I really wanted and to turn down the ones I didn't want. All the people that I turned down had absolutely no probs with this, as like others on here have said, they understood that I had to keep my options open due to the nature of the job market! I think that they all appreciated my politeness and honesty (of course, I didn't say I don't want your job anymore. I just said 'I wish to withdraw my application because I have been offered a job elsewhere).
    Btw, if your preferred job interview is scheduled to run after you've been offered a job elsewhere, the best thing to do is to decide whether to take a risk and wait or not.
    Incidently, I agree that your HoD's suggestion is not a good one as you'd be p'ing off a lot of people and will be stuck if you consider working with them in the future if no other jobs are available.

  8. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    How would you feel if on the first day of term, you were given 7 days notice as they had a better person lined up for next week?
    How would you feel if they rang you a week after offering you the job, and said that they had since interviewed someone else, so were withdrawing their offer to you?
    They would in fact be breaking a contract if they had offered and you had accepted, just as you would be by later turning it down.
    You would also be falsely presenting yourself to the second school as being able to enter into an employment contract with them, which would be untrue if you had already accepted an offer from another school.
    The second school could legally withdraw any offer to you in these circumstances, if they found out about you breaking your contract with the first school.
    As you can see, I am not in favour of this. Heads talk, and you could be blacklisted in the authority and the area.
    If you accept an offer from one school, you should not go to any interviews elsewhere as you are not in a position to accept another job offer.
    Not the answer that you wanted. Sorry.
    Dear Theo-turning down a job after already accepted it?
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
  9. TediousMissD

    TediousMissD New commenter

    Thank you everyone, I've decided that honesty is most definitely the best policy. I havent peeved anyone and I am listening to all the advice! I figured that all this would be the case!

    Thank you :)
  10. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Well done and very, very best wishes for everything.
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
  11. I'm not trying to be rude but your post makes me want to scream with regards to your appalling lack of understanding as to how to use an apostrophe. Is this what your application letters are like?
  12. TediousMissD

    TediousMissD New commenter

    Bit unnecessary!!!!

    Clearly they are dreadful! Hence I am on here doing something about it with my application forms!!!

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