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Dear Theo and all: Supply teaching and application form

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by pocketrocket, Nov 11, 2011.

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    Dear All,

    bits of further advice please regarding application forms and occupying days
    when not supplying.

    am currently supplying in the world of primary teaching, mainly KS1, since
    October 2011 in West Yorkshire. Prior to this, I worked as a KS1 teacher in
    an international school in China.
    I am still re-adjusting to UK
    life and working back in UK

    have therefore opted to supply until I have secured a permenent or long-term
    temporary post here in the UK.
    So far, I have managed two weeks of supply in KS1, which is my specialism, as I
    have been teaching five years to date. I now want to develop my teaching
    ability and experience to early years in order to complete a whole phase. I am finding that with supplying I am
    only getting KS1. I am still determined to pester agencies to send me for
    early year’s jobs, so onwards and upwards....
    Nothing lost just more to gain!



    in Yorkshire is a bit slow at the minute; I
    have done two weeks since registering in October.
    I was thinking;

    Should I give up 1 day a week to volunteer? Looking at half a day in reception and half in
    nursery until Christmas or maybe longer?
    Luckily, I am financially okay to do this until Feb.

    am just thinking of how I can fill my time whilst not supplying. A lot of my time goes on looking at jobs,
    schools, and job spec. My next thing is to go visit schools that have vacancies
    and see if the school fits in with my teaching ethos and skills.

    am taking my time to re -adjusting to being back in the UK and want to
    ensure the next job I secure is the right one for me.


    a application from do I now add;

    supply teacher as my current employment and put the agency that has given me
    the most over the month of October?


    Do I continue to use my school in China as my most recent experience?

    you can help.


  2. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Firstly, well done on the two week's work from Oct. that's not bad going.
    1 Volunteering is a good idea, I've got most of my work through initially volunteering in schools, but it's more difficult these days with schools being so security conscious, so ensure you have your CRB with you when you visit.
    Make sure you make your agency aware you're willing to work in other Key stages.
    2 Usually (in my LA at least) your first reference is your previous employer so you'll have to put your Head from China.

  3. Hi Lara mfl 05, thanks again for sending a reply in.
    1. Volunteering is a better way to spend my time then not doing much, the agencies are aware of the key stage change and experience I require and have said they will continue to search for supply jobs that meet my requirements. Still waiting ;-(
    2. Using my last head as a reference is grand, which is what I have been doing and good references have been coming back, so I have been told. I was more concerned about the employment section of the application form. So, do I use my China school as my most recent or use the supply I am doing now as my current employement? I wanted to highlight that I am supplying to show that I am still doing some form of teaching.
    Kind regards,
  4. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Thanks for the numbering!
    Supply EVERYWHERE is slow, and has been for a year or two. It is probably unrealistiuc to expect to be able to live on it.
    While this is all very admirable, I do need to warn you that the job situation for primary teachers is pretty dire. 200+ applications (not a typo - TWO hundred plus) is no longer surprising. So the idea of you looking around and being picky about which jobs to apply for is a very good idea - in different times. Being in a FT job makes it just that bit easier to get another job, so my advice would be to be less picky and just get a job for now.
    Q1 All voluntary work is good, especially if you can show in your application that you too are benefitting from it.
    Q2 They are your current employers, you are no longer at that school in China so cannot say that you are. They are certainly your most recent experience, but NOT your current employer. If you put them in there, schools may think that you are not available for interview in the UK. So be careful.
    However, if you can avoid giving the supply agency as a referee, that's best. Your Head in China and the Head of a school in W Yorks where you've done supply and is agreeable?
    My advice on writing applications is contained mainly in the shortlisting clickables inside the welcome thread here on this Forum.
    For an effective application, you should send:
    • an application form with every bit filled in, no "See letter"
    • an application letter OR personal statement. Not both but certainly one of them.
    • a cover letter ONLY if you do a personal statement. See FAQs inside the Welcome thread
    • an Executive summary. If there's a space on the form, put it in there; if not, put it at the end of your letter so that it gets printed out automatically. The shortlisting clickables explain about this.
    As a summary of the steps to take in getting a job:
    Point 1 Are you getting notification of all possible jobs? Do several JobAlerts here on the TES Forum, for all your subjects, and then repeat them all for the independent schools. * * * * How to set up a Job Alert * * * * is at the top of the page
    Point 2 Are you following the advice in the shortlisting clickables inside the Welcome thread?
    Lots of posters have found it gets them interviews - and jobs. Headteachers say that they appreciate candidates who do what I advise.
    Please take Theo's advice!
    taking Theo's Advice
    The benefit of an executive summary
    read theo's advice and do the executive summary people, it really does work, seriously!!!!
    Dear Theo: Executive summary works- I have an interview
    Point 3 Now you have some supply under your belt, do make sure that you are making the most of all the advantages that come from doing supply. Some applicants tend to be apologetic about supply; you should present it as a positive.
    Dear Theo- work history too bitty and too much supply- help!
    Point 4 Have you tried doing an interview practice with someone who will give you blunt feedback? You'll need to get ready for when you do get an interview. You might, for example, being doing something quite simple, like screwing up your face in a glare when you are conisdering an answer, which can be very off-putting. And which a school is unlikely to tell you about.
    Point 5 And then, if all has failed because you are already doing all this, then you should be thinking of getting on a train or a coach to come to the application seminars: the next one of Winning That Teaching Job is on 26th November - led by two good colleagues of mine.
    www.tes.co.uk/careerseminars gives more details.
    Going to a seminar has worked for many posters
    Dear Theo.....I got the job!!!!!
    Point 6 Finally, you might like to open your piggy bank and come for a One-to-One session with me or someone else in the TES team. Again, people have found this helpful (although I personally shall not now be available until mid December, my colleagues from Tes Prime also offer this):
    Sign upto one of Theo's 1-2-1s....... JUST DO IT
    Dear Everyone... I met TheoGriff!
    Theo and tremendous support
    Theo's 'One to One' careers service....
    Now the last two cost money, and although it is worth it (just calculate the difference between JSA and a salary . . .), it always makes sense to try out the free advice first!
    Best wishes
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Seminars. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
  5. Hi Theo,
    Thank you for your reply.
    To clarify some of your points, I have been away for the past two years and I am only seeing now the extent towhich the cut backs and the low number of teaching positions available.
    I did not mean to sound picky. Ultimately securing a full time job is what I am looking for. But I just wanted to express that I would like to gain more experience through supply and volunteering to aid my next career move. In saying I want to make sure I pick the right school, which has the same ethos as me, may have been the wrong choice of words, all I wanted to express was that I want to find the right school for me, if there is such a thing, once upon a time there was. Onwards and upwards.
    But again, thank you for all your pointers, I will continue to read and research the threads. they are very helpful and informative.
    Thank you.

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