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Dear Theo and all: A very long moany post with no questions - you have been warned!

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by welshchocoholic1, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. welshchocoholic1

    welshchocoholic1 Senior commenter

    Well didn't do any applications last night, so feeling slightly better. Yes I'm still moaning [​IMG].
    I am fed up with my school [​IMG].
    I feel bad for moaning, as I was REALLY happy to have a long term placement in a PRIMARY school, but maybe it would have been better to just do a couple of days in a school where the head would actually give references, and I would have had more time to do applications too[​IMG]. Just generally fed up.
    I am also fed up of applications - the amount of time they take, just knowing in the back of my mind that there's just a 2 percent chance that they will even shortlist me! I am also fed up of living like a gypsy, not knowing were abouts I am goin to end up living. I am at and age now where a lot of my fiends are married and on to their 1st or 2nd child, and have good jobs, and I am just <u>STILL</u> trying to get a teaching job. I am also not loving Birmingham atm, and want to go back to Wales [​IMG]!
    Sorry for my VERY moany post [​IMG]
  2. marmot.morveux

    marmot.morveux New commenter

    It sounds like you need some 'me' time. I always tell myself when I'm working too hard; 'what would I do if I had a family?' My answer is always that they would HAVE to come first. You need to look after yourself first, mentally and physically, otherwise you'll be of no use to any school. I'm sorry if you just wanted a moan and didn't want my advice, but I just felt I should say something. Oh....and what's wrong with Birmingham? Is it that you need more friends/colleagues to go out with? I've moved around a lot, and it's always been the people, not the place which have been important. I'm living in the West Midlands and the people are a lot friendlier here than when I was in London. MM.
  3. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Oh welshie! [​IMG] again.
    Here I'll 'virtually' share some of my birthday box of chocloates.
    Let's indulge and add a mug
    Anyone coping with uncertainty of job security, a difficult class, lack of sleep, long working hours et al, is going to feel slightly stressed trying to keep all those plates spinning. So perhaps you need these? [​IMG]
    They're waterproof so unaffected by the rain too!
  4. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    I don't know what to say, Welshie.
    My first thought is: Aren't you GREAT for going back to that school day after day. You really are, you know!
    My second is: why on EARTH doesn't the school provide more support for you with those difficult pupils. And parents...
    My third is: why on EARTH will the Head not write you a reference, when you are putting up with so much?
    My fourth is: so go and ask somebody else. The Head of KS2, or the Deputy Head. explain the problem - you need a reference from a school, because the agency references are useless, but the Head is too busy to write one. Don't say she won't do it, say she's too busy.
    It's not having a nice school that makes you dislike Brum, I bet. can you remember why you moved there from Wales in the first place?
    Best wishes to you Welshie, and Happy Birthday to Lara.
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    For the full TES Weekend Workshop programme please visit www.tes.co.uk/careerseminars or contact advice@tes.co.uk for one-to-one sessions.
    I shall be contributing to the Moving into SLT seminar on 5th May.
  5. I know how you feel in Brum. I did some supply work in various areas of Brum and they were, without exception, horrific. However I did two terms in Solihull and that was great. It all depends on where in Brum you are.
    I also worked on Coventry/North Warwickshire for 7 years and that's not much better.
    Chin up and well done for soldiering on.
    No No No No - I've done the Tesco bit and still doing the ASDA bit - you don't want that I assure you.
    Now I like that idea.
  6. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Well, when you get back to this post, you have some<u> VERY </u>positive pointers from a variety of sources.
    As Theo says, <u>you really do well to keep turning up day after day</u>, week after week. Especially when the new (experienced teacher) TA has quit after just one week! Your class do sound a real handful 'Running around the class, throwing things at her, swearing, fighting, damaging each others work' and presumably, even if less so, you still get some of that in your classes? Someone needs to hurry up those referrals- these children (plus You and the rest of the class) deserve better.The long hours and travel times won't be doing you any favours either.
    However, you DO say "I do like the class" so that's one postive. [​IMG]
  7. Sillow

    Sillow Lead commenter

    Well, if the class don't behave with you like they did with the supply teacher, then they must have some respect for you - which you have earned because children just don't give away their respect for nothing.
    There is lots of fab advice given to you here. Good luck with it all and DON'T apologise for moaning. That's what we're here for!
  8. welshchocoholic1

    welshchocoholic1 Senior commenter

    First of all Happy Birthday Lara [​IMG]
    Thanks for thh chocolate, though I think you may have been fooled by the hot chocolate - as I don't think it is hot chocolate [​IMG]!
    Thanks all for your comments. Don't think I hate Brum, just the school atm. Supply Slave- I was in North Warwickshire for a while - was better than here. I would just eat the chocolate in th chocolate shop now[​IMG]! Sillow, some of them are starting to show about 3 percent respect more than they did.
    Because I am a supply teacher [​IMG]
    Because I am a supply teacher [​IMG], not just me - she doesn't write them for any supply teachers.
    The deputy head is off long term, and the head of KS2 looks like they're about to have a mental breakdown at any point. I don't dare ask them anything as have seen them storm off/throw books n floor/cry/scream and shout etc - because they are uner so much pressure. Feel like I'm trapped[​IMG].
    Probably- I don't mind it that much[​IMG].
    I'm just really fed up and tired, also had bad news nothing to do with teaching, but everthing all at once - I've just had enough now. Looked at a few jobs today, and I don't add up to ANY teaching job spec. Very close to just giving up - yes I know - again [​IMG]!
  9. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Ooh, thanks for the cake welshchocoholic. Though in fact birthday was earlier this week, but didn't actually have cake then.
    You're right about the 'hot choc' too! HOW could I have missed that?
    Re'I don't add up to ANY teaching job spec. Are you sure your perception isn't being warped by your current mood? Take another look tomorrow.

  10. welshchocoholic1

    welshchocoholic1 Senior commenter

    Oh yeah, I lied - I have QTS, but that's about it [​IMG].
    Still raining lots, and very windy and cold [​IMG].
  11. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    I think it's a recipe for a chocolate pudding cooked in a mug in the microwave.
    We tried it - fabulously scrumptious and delicious.
    About ten million calories, but who cares?
    Well, to be honest here, Welshie, that's not the best approach to job seeking from a MFL specialist . . .
    It is bound to be depressing if you look at person specs where they want a Maths co-ordinator. There is no need to start getting desperate yet, because as you are in a temporary post, you don't have to give in your notice by May 31. This means that you will be able to apply for jobs that come up after then, and with your experience, will be better placed than those people straight from their training.
    So you have time on your side.
    I know that you want to secure that next job, so that you can see the light at the end of the tunnel, but there's time left yet, plenty of time.
    Make that cake now.
    The Five Minute Chocolate Mug Cake @ Not Quite Nigella
    Best wishes
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    For the full TES Weekend Workshop programme please visit www.tes.co.uk/careerseminars or contact advice@tes.co.uk for one-to-one sessions.
    I shall be contributing to the Moving into SLT seminar on 5th May.
  12. welshchocoholic1

    welshchocoholic1 Senior commenter

    Haha, your post made me smile [​IMG].
    I tink you may have misunderstood me, or infact that I haven't been very clear. I mean that wen I scroll downthe job, it's wanted Maths specialist, or jut Maths jobs. Even the MFL one thy I was just about to give another go, and snap out of my bad mood wants some German, and Ich spreche Kein Deutsche [​IMG].
    It's a VERY long, dark tunnel [​IMG]
    Does that mean I can also leave tomorrow [​IMG]
    Haha, loving the cake recipie, thanks. Not going out in this weather to get ingredients though until the rain and wind calm down a bit. Should really be marking my books - I will. Don't want to. Feel like doing no work whatsovever so then they can sack me [​IMG]!!
    I do have one question now - Do things EVER get any better, and how many years does it take until you finally realise it's just NEVER going to happen [​IMG]?
    I will try to cheer up soon, but then again I might just cry and eat chocolate [​IMG].
  13. They are.
    How old are you?
  14. Sorry you feel so bad. I really feel your pain! I'm still trying to get a permanent contract at the moment and I'm doing a maternity cover in a difficult class. All the staff are stressed with the behaviour of the children and the ridiculous demands the head is putting on us. People forget how stressful it is applying for jobs on top of all of this and how much time it takes up. There really is a lack of understanding of the pressure we're under.
    All I can say is remember that you are doing a good job becasue it doesn't sound like anyone will tell you. I had an interview the other day which I didn't get. I happened to meet the head who had interviewed me at a school football match and he came over to tell me that they had been really impressed with me at interview and had loved my lesson but they went for someone with year 6 experience. I nearly cried in front of him and realised afterwards that it was the first time someone had said something positive about my teaching for months. It really boosted my confidence and my mood which seems ridiculous as I didn't even get the job! The people at your school may not show that they appreciate you but that's their failing, not yours so try not to let it affect you. Not many people could cope with the hours you are putting in. I have days where I come home. cry and eat chocolate but I'm really trying to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Hang in there!
  15. tigger82

    tigger82 New commenter

    I've nothing to add to the good advice you have had on this post but I want to echo the take better care of yourself sentiments. I know this job can be all consuming but you need to take a step back.
    You are doing a fantastic job with difficult behaviour (from all sides) and I cna promise you it does get better.
    Just wanted to let you know I am thinking of you x

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