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Dear Theo... An overseas trained teacher unlucky getting a full time job

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by Flowers19, Jul 6, 2015.

  1. Flowers19

    Flowers19 Occasional commenter

    I trained at the University of Auckland in New Zealand and successfully passed my one year graduate diploma. I worked in Nz for 6 years and specialised in teaching English as second language. I returned back to the North West last year and have been supply teaching since. I have had no luck in getting a full time job. Is it because I trained overseas? I have put thought into every application but I'm getting no where. Could you help? I'm new to TES and haven't quite figured everywhere out yet. Any help would be wonderful.
  2. DYNAMO67

    DYNAMO67 Lead commenter

    1) what is your subject? English as a second language is very different to teaching English as a curriculum subject over here!

    2) North west is probably the most over subscribed place to be.

    Would you have more luck in the south east? Less competition and maybe more scope for you to use your language skills?
  3. Flowers19

    Flowers19 Occasional commenter

    Oh yes I understand that. I mean I was born over here . I'm not sure what using an E. S is either.

    Can't move really as my family are here and came back to be with them
  4. CWadd

    CWadd Star commenter

    Its a pity you can't move, as inner city schools - especially London - tend to have more scope for ESL due to the high number of multi-language children. A couple I've worked in offered full time posts as ESL co-ordinators.

    If its a choice between getting a full time post, or staying on supply, you may have no choice in the end but to re-locate.
  5. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Yes there are some good points made above. There would be more demand for ESL in the urban areas with larger population of pupils with English as a second language, obviously.

    There are several things here to help you a bit.

    First, find out all the time about all the job vacancies possible. Look on the Local Authority education vacancies website regularly - every other day. And read these:

    Get the TES Jobs App

    How to set up a Job Alert

    Get yourself ready for applying:

    Get ready for the application season!

    Oh - just thought - you HAVE jumped through the hoops to get QTS, haven't you? You'll fall at the first hurdle if not.

    Teachers from abroad looking for jobs in England

    And then read and learn all about E.S. . . . and other application tips. I have included ones which aren't relevant to you for the benefit of other readers.

    Applying for a job in a school I suggest that you read these in this order.

    NQTs start here! *** N.B. ***

    Do I have to tell my Head I am applying elsewhere?

    Pre-application visits to schools

    <h4>Why you should always include an E.S. in an application***NEW ***</h4>
    How to get shortlisted for a teaching job *** The basic advice***

    How NOT to get shortlisted

    How do schools shortlist candidates?

    Common errors found in applications

    The Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing but the Truth!

    Who should be my referees?

    Can I see my references?

    Can your Head write a negative reference for you? Or refuse to write one? Can you see what was written... ***NEW ***

    Step-by-step: How to write an E.S. *** More basic advice ***

    Executive summaries - where to start when no person specification

    Person Spec too long - how do I do an E.S.? And where do I put it? *** Beginners start here ***

    Application form: how to present long list of posts outside education

    How can I provide details of examination results?

    Can I omit, on an application, a period spent teaching abroad?

    No CPD to put on the application form!

    5 common errors in applications

    Best wishes


    Meet Theo on line on the TES JobSeekers Forum, where she answers jobseeking and careers queries regularly each week.
  6. Flowers19

    Flowers19 Occasional commenter

    Fantastic!!! Thank you so much for these!!! yes I have my QTS and DBS and all those good things! Thanks again. I will keep you posted :)


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