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Dear Theo: a waste of time?

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by Lilybett, Mar 27, 2011.

  1. Probably!
    (I'm an unemployed NQT ( [​IMG] ), trained to teach 5-11.)
    My local primary school is advertising for an Upper KS2 teacher (perfect!) who is also to be English Co-ordinator...
    The school would be perfect for me and English genuinely is my specialism, and the curriculum area I want to work towards co-ordinating as soon as I find an NQT job. But clearly I'm not ready to do it straight away...
    The advert asks for "experienced" teachers but nowhere does it say that NQTs aren't welcome to have a go...?!
    Is it even worth the time to fill out the application?
    Thanks in advance xxx
     
  2. Helena Handbasket

    Helena Handbasket New commenter

    The way you should look at it is if you apply and don't get it you have only wasted a very short amount of time. However, if you don't apply you can't get the job at all.
     
  3. ^^ This was my logic. I like your moniker, Helena. [​IMG]
     
  4. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    If they are looking for a literacy co-ordinator then you haven't a hope. If they specifically ask for experienced teachers then you also haven't a hope. As they are asking for both, then the post is not perfect for you at all.

    However I would go and visit the school and have a chat with the headteacher. It may be that there is an internal candidate applying and, should they be successful, you have shown yourself to have initiative and so will be in with a fabulous chance of the classteacher role created by their promotion.
     
  5. Hello
    A few years ago I was in a similar position. I was doing supply and looking for a post to start induction. I had done supply regularly in a school which was about to advertise for a literacy coordinator. The headteacher told me that if she had a class teacher vacancy available, she would have loved to offer it to me and buy me from the agency, but the specifics of that post needed someone with experience. She told me to apply though so that she had my details if something came up at a later date. She did contact me a couple of months later with details of a vacancy, but I had already been offered a post elsewhere.
    My advice would be to explain your situation and see if you can apply for the head to consider you for anything that may come up in the future. Not sure if that's "allowed" nowadays though!
    Good luck with the job-hunting!
    sparkly
     
  6. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    They have asked for experienced, you are not. By saying experienced they are saying not NQTs. With quite possibly 200+ people applying, they are likely to have a good number of experienced people, so will not need to consider aQT, however good.
    To be English co-ordinator you would need to manage the work of other staff and give them advice.
    How could you do this as a NQT needing THEIR advice and support? Sorry, it is just not appropriate.
    And the person who says that you have wasted very little time in an application so do it anyway (a) is underestimating how much effort is needed for an effective application (b) is forgetting that you are signalling yourself as having poor judgment by applying for an unsuitable post, thereby possibly styming your chance if they have another,more suitabke, vacancy.
    As for whether they will contact people when they have a vacancy, yes, they always do: it's called putting an ad in the TES.
    I'm sorry that this repky is a negative all round . . . but being blunt is my job too.
    Good luck!
    ______________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews. The next Job Application seminar where you can meet me is on Saturday 2 April.
    www.tesweekendworkshop19.eventbrite.com
    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  7. Sorry for taking up your time, Theo. I knew it was stupid, really, otherwise I wouldn't have been asking.
     
  8. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Don't apologise I'm sure Theo would say you needn't. His comment '"'m sorry that this reply is a negative all round . . . but being blunt is my job too." is intended as constructive criticism, not that you shoudln't have asked it.
    We all have to start somewhere & being able to admit you need to ask for help is the first step to 'knowing'. I'm sure we've all asked some stupid questions in our time-probably still do for that matter, we're always learning after all.
     
  9. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    No, not stupid, you were just hoping against hope . . . very understandable!
    Best wishes
    ______________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews. The next Job Application seminar where you can meet me is on Saturday 2 April.
    www.tesweekendworkshop19.eventbrite.com
    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     

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