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Dear James- What are my prospects?

Discussion in 'Trainee and student teachers' started by JonnyEnglish123, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. I'm the kind of person who likes to know what my future holds. In a few weeks time I'll be starting a Key Stage 2/3 English Education with QTS (UG) course at Edge Hill University and I can't seem to find a straight answer from anyone. Firstly, I'll mention some things about the course. It's really a Primary Teaching course (7-14) with some aspects of Secondary, particularly the transition between the two. I will also gain experience with KS1 & KS4. I will have a specialism in English but also be qualified to teach all subjects, as any Primary degree normally does. It is a tough time for any graduate, but what I'm really looking for is an honest professional opinion. As a male graduate of this course, what are my prospects for finding a job in a Primary school? Thanks for your help.
  2. welshwizard

    welshwizard Established commenter Forum guide

    These courses were originally planned to train teachers for middle schools. There are still a few parts of the country with this structure but most are now primary-secondary phased with the transfer at 11+. NQTs can gain posts in upper primary or secondary however in my experience you have the disadvantage in secondary of a lack of KS4 experience, this can be rectified by pushing to observe exam classes where possible. For primary the disadvantage is not having experience of KS1, however junior schools are a good fit with the KS2 specialism plus your experience of transition to KS3.Yrs 5 & 6 are the least popular groups for primary teachers.
    Ultimately prospects depend upon where you are planning to work as opportunities for NQTs vary around the country but in general the NE produces a large number of primary graduates each year and NQT induction posts are hard to come by. In some areas of the SE English secondary posts are in short supply and regularly English figures as having the largest number of vacancies. Keep an eye on John Mannings thread on this section about getting an NQT post.
  3. welshwizard

    welshwizard Established commenter Forum guide

  4. John_in_Luton

    John_in_Luton Occasional commenter

    Thank you for blowing my cover, WW, I was trying to keep carefully anonymous!
    And our equally erudite Celtic sage doesn't get out much, for some reason (well, actually for those of us who know him, for quite understandable reasons) he's not allowed out much beyond the M25. But there are those of our ilk, like me, who will be visiting Edge Hill on December 6th for the annual Teacher Recruitment Fair, so come and talk to us all there.
    If you find what I've written, and which WW has pointed you towards, useful, give it a bump by posting a comment so it rises back up the rankings on this forum!
  5. I find that KS2-3 trained teachers can be very valuable in schools. We run KS2-3 maths, science and MFL at Sussex and our trainees often work in primary though some take secondary jobs as transition specialists - more and more schools are employing such teachers.
    In certain areas, primary jobs are difficult to come by but often trainees get good contacts on placement and word spreads. Also do enter pools for jobs run by the LAs and attend jobs fairs.
    Remember that your flexibility and cross phase eperience is your greatest strength whether you go for primary or secondary jobs. Technically KS2-3 courses are secondary courses according to TDA current rules, but that does not limit you to secondary posts.
  6. Thank you. I've spoken to previous graduates and there is a mix of those who go into Primary and Secondary posts. According to UCAS and the University, the 7-14 course is really a Primary course, but I can see how the TDA would class it as Secondary. This course has also been very well received by placement schools. Although it is my ambition to move into Primary, I certainly would not turn down a Secondary job if I were offered one! Would it stand me in good stead for Primary posts considering I am male? Or is that made up by the media?

    It's wonderful to see some people praise the course and how schools are now understanding how valuable those trained in KS2/3 are. Especially after so many negative comments that surround the view that no school will touch me/ it's a useless qualification. Thank you again.

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