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Cut off time?

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by brokenstar64, Sep 5, 2011.

  1. Hello all, I'm an NQT doing supply, I have managed to secure regular Thurs-Fri work at one of my placement schools and am with 2 different agencies (one lesser known, one very well known). Have told both agencies that I am available for standby work Mon-Weds, but am wondering what time I should have as a "cut off" point? Today is my first morning: I'm currently up and ready to go (just need to get dressed), and have been since 7.15 including having my bag packed, laptop on etc, so if I get a call I can be out of the door in under 10mins. Even though as it's only the first day of term today, I'm not expecting any work this week! Am also presuming that even if I get a call for afternoon work, that it'll come fairly early in the day (as in before lunchtime) so that school's can organise themselves. I don't really want to sit around waiting all day, and would like to actually get dressed (and not have to get changed again out of my civvies!) and do something with my day. Just wanted to get an idea of how long people give it each morning before giving up on the day? What would a reasonable "cut off time" be? Thanks in advance all x
     
  2. Hello all, I'm an NQT doing supply, I have managed to secure regular Thurs-Fri work at one of my placement schools and am with 2 different agencies (one lesser known, one very well known). Have told both agencies that I am available for standby work Mon-Weds, but am wondering what time I should have as a "cut off" point? Today is my first morning: I'm currently up and ready to go (just need to get dressed), and have been since 7.15 including having my bag packed, laptop on etc, so if I get a call I can be out of the door in under 10mins. Even though as it's only the first day of term today, I'm not expecting any work this week! Am also presuming that even if I get a call for afternoon work, that it'll come fairly early in the day (as in before lunchtime) so that school's can organise themselves. I don't really want to sit around waiting all day, and would like to actually get dressed (and not have to get changed again out of my civvies!) and do something with my day. Just wanted to get an idea of how long people give it each morning before giving up on the day? What would a reasonable "cut off time" be? Thanks in advance all x
     
  3. In the current climate, I would probably take the approach of assume no supply work Mon-Weds and plan your days, with the proviso that they may be interrupted - if lucky.
    When I did supply - you could receive a call the night before all the way up to mid-morning! Even if for that morning!
    I am sure that there will be others on here that can advise you. I would suggest trying to secure another long-term supply.
     
  4. Thanks for the reply!

    Am obviously spending my time otherwise looking for permanent positions (and middling about the house) and preparing myself for the work I know I have.

    I just wondered if in general, there was a "That's it!" time of day that people have, I'm not really expecting anything this side of half term to be honest (stupid summer holidays providing teachers with some well needed/deserved r'n'r!) but wanted to be realistically prepared.

    I am working my T/F cover with the lure of "potential" for further extension on a full-time basis (maternity cover)

    For example, my mother isn't well and I'd like to be able to look after her, but she lives on the other side of town and I'm reliant on public transport (which is not good out in the sticks where my parents live). Therefore I'm planning 'local' stuff, like trips to the post office, and other things within walking distance; so should a call come through I can get home promptly. I'd like to know at what point of the day I could venture over to my parents safe in the knowledge I wouldn't be at the risk of losing out on work.

    Miss Pious, what was the latest time you had a call come through for same-day work?
     
  5. Apologies for the "chunk" of text - my formatting doesn't seem to post :s
     
  6. Mine was 12.30 as I often got calls to cover afternoons. Near the end of term I figured I wasn't going to get anything as it had been quiet all week so changed into gardening clothes quite early on, around 11, and got myself all organised for a day in the garden. Cue urgent call from agency "can you be there in half an hour". Answer - no because I am a complete mess at the min and would be all flustered having to re-change and run into class. So 12.30 is my cut off from now on regardless of time of year. I still go out to shops and things but keep my teaching bag with me and my phone volume up high so I'm ready for anything. Incidentally I met a supply teacher last year who said he walked round naked until he got a call so he could decide which clothes to put on at that point. My 12.30 cut off probably wouldn't have worked for him in winter!
     
  7. nikkisab i LOVE your naked supply story! lol although I don't think my neighbours would appreciate if I did the same! 12.30 sounds a reasonable cut off, although I'm thinking that by 11.00 I've all but given up hope.
    Thanks for the reply - will use that as my cut off as it leaves me the afternoon. Think I'll just stop at home with a coffee and do some yoga, at least I'll be fit and balanced (albeit poor).
    I don't fancy lugging my schoolbag around with me all over the place, as my supply folder is heavy enough alone!
     
  8. lrw22

    lrw22 Occasional commenter

    I usually give up hope by 11 [​IMG]
     
  9. Great minds think alike Irw22!
     
  10. I have started on a guaranteed pay scheme mon-weds and in my contract say I can be contacted until 12 so after getting my daughter to nursery for half 7 and going back to sleep fully dressed with lunch and bag in the car, I'm now getting ready for the gym :)
     
  11. That must make things so much easier boxy! Unfortunately there's nothing like that in my contracts. Ah the "excitement" of supply...
     
  12. Errr...my cut off time is earlier - 9.15 -9.30! I've never had an emergency call from an agency to teach in a school for an afternoon and any afternoons that I have worked have been arranged in advance. I don't know, it's hard to get the balance right, you could end up spending all day waiting for a call and then not really get anything done or you could get on with your day with that slight risk that you might get a phone call. I suppose having your phone handy would help and if you don't want to lug a heavy load of resources around you could always have some ideas up your sleeve. Art and PE are good afternoon sessions to teach, you don't necessarily need resources for those if you have an idea already (portraits is a lesson you could do for all ages as well as boosting ball skills for PE).



    As for clothes...I'm not sure how smart you dress but I often feel happy to wear clothes that wear to work, outside of school too. I wear skirts and smart matching tops alot anyway (I'm not blagging by the way, it's just that I feel comfortable in the clothes I go to work in, I hate suits and heels!). I guess you could always dress smart casual just in case?



    So I guess what I'm trying to say is try and get on with your day as much as you can, possibly check your phone around 11.30 and if you're already out, you might even be able to make it anyway. I would imagine that if a teacher falls ill later in the morning a TA may end up covering as an afternoon session is only 2 hours or so...

    Whoops! I think I've written an essay here. :)
     
  13. I did write in paragraphs but my writing has been clumped together and I can't seem to fix it...Sorry about that.
     
  14. Is it wrong that I really struggle with the idea of being phoned up on the day? It did happen to me last year when I was supplying whilst still studying but I knew the school (and therefore the classes) but the idea of being rung up to go into a strange school terrifies me. And also causes problems as I have certain responsibilities after school time (I'm a guider and run a rainbow unit) and as I live in a big city I could get called to schools on the other side and not be able to get back in time because of rush hour - therefore would need to know the night before to make other arrangements for leaders/cancel the meeting - its not really fair on everyone else!!!
     
  15. Guiding star - I have said I will only do pre booked or sane day afternoons at a push. This is because I have a toddler and my husband works shifts so different days each week. Daughter can go to my mum but she needs pre warning as she sometimes has stuff on. Usually I get her weekly activities off her and cross reference when husband is home and let the agency know on a Monday morning ir by email Sunday, my availability for the week.

    At the end of last term I did get a call at 8:30 am for the afternoon but it was a school right by me and I knew my husband was off work too. I did also get a text off the supply mobile on a Sunday morning for a Monday full days work so check phones at weekends too.

    Basically I just assume no work for the afternoon and get on with the day and can make a decision if they were to call later. I did get a call in the holidays asking if I could be at a day nursery in half an hour but I was out shopping and didn't hear the calk and rang back in 10 mins and they had got someone else. Shame but I wouldn't have made it that day anyway.

    I guess it's different when you have a toddler to entertain.
     
  16. For morning covering 11am was latest ever called...
    For afternoon only 1.15 - but they worked a lot later than most...
    Prob depends if secondary or primary also....
     
  17. Thanks for the thoughts. I'm Primary (Early Years specialist). So I'd imagine that any afternoon bookings would be earlier than 1.15 as most Primary/Nursery sessions start before then. I do like the idea of wearing 'work-ready' clothes, but one of my agencies demands that I wear a 'uniform' of sorts [basic black trousers, shirt, flats and Agency shirt/tabard] which is unlike anything I'd normally wear. With things being September I think I'm giving up earlier than I would around Christmas/cold-flu time, but it is a real bore just waiting around... Saarah, I'm quite happy to 'turn up' and just go with the flow, but I don't think its something I should use on a daily basis (if only as i've put so much effort into putting my supply file together). Guidingstar and cliveceltic I'm not a huge fan of this standby malarky, but needs must unfortunately. We can always say no, can't we?
     
  18. For example, I 'gave up' at about 9 o'clock today...
     
  19. I don't get dressed from pajamas till 9:30 -I can get into work clothes quick enough. Till then I do the housework/ go online/ read a book. I have been called later but that's rare. I don't think it's worth giving up the day when I won't be paid. Having said that today I'm waiting in all day for a parcel -and it might not come till 5:30!

    Last year I did a lot of on-the-day work but so far this year it's all been pre-booked.
     
  20. P.S. Is the tabard/uniform thing common? I would've thought it was best for the children to see you as a "normal" teacher.
     

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