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Cult of Outstanding

Discussion in 'Education news' started by 1EIREANN, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. drek

    drek Star commenter

    It's the vision statements that go on forever full of superfluous management course buzzwords and are rendered meaningless as soon as one enters the post code on Zoopla and the unemployment and crime stats reveal a more realistic expectation of the job requirements.......
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  2. hammie

    hammie Lead commenter

    I've worked for two schools rated good that then went chasing outstanding. In both cases they forgot what made them good and actually went down a level at the next inspection.
  3. MrMedia

    MrMedia Star commenter

    I very rarely delivered outstanding lessons and that’s how I knew they were outstanding.

    Signed: an English teacher.
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  4. moscowbore

    moscowbore Lead commenter

    My school had an impending OFSTED coming up. In preparation, senior management were observing everybody in the school. Teachers, admin staff, support staff, everybody. Everybody got graded on their OFSTED readiness.
    Deputy Head came to observe my lesson. I was introducing my class to computer programming using software they had never seen before. I led the class through how to navigate the software. By the end of the double lesson most had independently written a small program and I was well pleased with the result.
    The deputy head had a different view. OFSTED would grade my lesson as inadequate because my introduction to the new software involved me telling them what options to take and this was bad, apparently. I pointed out that most of the class had independently used the software to write their own program and surely this was proof positive that learning had taken place. Again, she had a different view. As I had not stopped every 20 minutes for a plenary using mini whiteboards, I had not shown progress which was bad, apparently. I ever-so-gently suggested that as I had been teaching my subject for 16 years and achieved the best GCSE and A level results in the school the previous year that maybe my way worked and the OFSTED way was pants, while respecting her emotional intelligence and simultaneously doing a brain gym exercise. I also made it clear that, as an experienced subject specialist, I would decide how I taught my lessons and I would always do what I consider is best for my students and the needs of OFSTED would never enter into my head. I had to repeat those words to the principal later in the day. I spoke really slowly in a manner which could possibly have been mistakenly interpreted as sarcastic and disrespectful.
    Anyway, I did not get the 1% performance related payrise as I had apparently not done enough to find year 10 students work experience and I am sure it had nothing to do with my, "OFSTED way is pants", comment.

    Steer way, way clear of any school which in any way suggests that OFSTED "outstanding" is a worthwhile objective.
  5. Jolly_Roger12

    Jolly_Roger12 Occasional commenter

    @moscowbore: Did you point out to this DH the irony in her suggestion that your students should have used white boards in a lesson in which they were surrounded by computers?
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  6. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    This is nonsense.

    This is nonsense.

    There is no Ofsted 'way'.

    This is total nonsense.
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2018
  7. armandine2

    armandine2 Established commenter

    I stopped reading o.p. (early on) from when it turned away from the self-congratulatory - as i have just been told that a printing service I'd wanted to use is poor (doesn't serve me) due to the feeble excuse that it is somehow too complicated since it is in conflict with the simple delivery to the masses. The adobe booklet option, which would've saved me money and them paper, appears to be too hard to implement. It is not the cult of outstanding to want the service to work. I wonder today though that good would appear outstanding.
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  8. simonCOAL

    simonCOAL Occasional commenter

    @Pomza I look forward to the tireless defence of your comments ;)
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  9. moscowbore

    moscowbore Lead commenter

    Dear pomza,
    I agree with all of your comments.

    The management at my school used OFSTED as the reason for every one of their despicable acts of teacher subjugation. It got to the point that every time the principal said "OFSTED will expect ...", there was an audible giggle in the staffroom and the principal could not figure out what the mirth was about.

    Half the staff left, following year results were terrible.
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  10. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    Wow - That doesn't happen to me very often! ;)

    Yep - There are some idiots out there...
  11. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    OMG, Drek! You have just hit on an ingenious way for teachers to move jobs safely! Look at the local area crime stats...love it!
  12. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Interesting post, at least the half I could get through. Your levels of typeface clarity and textual concision are, I’m sad to say, not that outstanding! What would OFSTED say?
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  13. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Outstandingly rubbish. My oxymoron of the day....
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  14. applecrumblebumble

    applecrumblebumble Lead commenter

    The sad part about all this is that heads do not trust Ofsted. If Ofsted make statements about not doing something or other but then reports a school as outstanding because it has coherent marking policy which is consistently used throughout the school or similar. The heads research shows the school using multicoloured pens etc. then it’s going to happen in your school. The only way things are going to change is if Ofsted actively dissuades schools from following these work intensive regimes, ultimately by down grading management.
    Is this going to happen probably not because Ofsted do not run schools and Ofsted make recommendations. It is only brave, confident heads who can run with Ofsted recommendations and we have very few of them.
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  15. Jamvic

    Jamvic Star commenter

    This is increasingly happening in previously good schools. (Genuinely good not necessarily Ofsted ‘Good’).
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  16. tenpast7

    tenpast7 Occasional commenter


    When is the Education System going to leave Classroom Teachers alone to do their job, their own way, without constant interference.
    They only need "Professional Trust" again, and the vast majority will thrive and enjoy their work more.
    I think that this could help with Recruiting Teachers where there are shortages.
  17. drek

    drek Star commenter

    Ofsted findings never add up up for RI schools.
    Look up several RI reports. They are almost carbon copies of each other.
    Usually the leadership team get a good/outstanding and everything else gets an RI.
    This must be in contravention of some conservation principle or the other!
    I understand it was after complaints by the head teachers association regarding leadership recruitment figures..........
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  18. ATfan

    ATfan Star commenter

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  19. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    All I can tell you is that it used to be good, it was once like that. I hate the Tories for what they’ve done to education. Yes, Labour initiated academies, but they didn’t want this monstrosity. It takes a Tory to want to create illegal cash profit out of a school and its children, to bully educated graduates in they way they jackboot their own staff in their own multinationals.
    I was left alone and trusted to..you know...just teach...for about fifteen years. This current mess? It really is all Gove’s fault, and his ministry’s at that time, particularly from 2013. He created these stupid new performance management criteria. He and whichever git came up with the ‘How to be a God’ list, aka the Teachers’ Standards. They all set the bars impossibly high so it’s simpler for the SLT to legally boot us out. Discrimination on age and gender cost, you see. And those pesky higher pension rates paid by the school employers. ...It’s a dirty scam. Along with the constant bullying which Gove also added to, taking his cue from psycho-bully of the decade Wilshaw, the whole educational landscape altered for the worse. They brought EVERYONE down with the policy changes. Kids became stressed and depressed. Doctors see so many more teachers each week now...people who had never taken a day off sick in decades, suddenly destroyed, muted, needing to be signed off long term. Very quickly education nosedived. I realised how big the lies were when I saw how utterly arrogant and useless a lot of the new trainees were. Many treat it as a gap year. Many cannot teach for toffee. It did hurt, seeing disorganised, topic-knowledge weak young graduates suddenly get hoiseted in as deputy heads or HODs. At that point, I stopped taking teaching as a profession seriously. I mean, I’d done a BA, two year taught MA and a PGCE. Suddenly Tarquinius from Oggsford with his Teachfirst knew more than me. Er...no. Fackorff.
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  20. hammie

    hammie Lead commenter

    Mrs Mumbles, your career and observations therein seem to match mine pretty much exactly. About 15 years of decent teaching followed by the experience of working in a system that is rapidly disintegrating around us. All led by politicians and their army of fast track under qualified and under experienced numpties who got out of a classroom as quickly as they could and now consider themselves qualified to tell everyone else how to do the job. When I win the Euromillions, I'll send you enough to retire!
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