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Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by MilkyBar Kid, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. aypi

    aypi Senior commenter

    Surely if there were to be actual classes there would be a timetable?
  2. inthered

    inthered Occasional commenter

    How about if we all self isolate for 7 days? All of us probably have an underlying health condition we may not be fully aware of but given a little thought, would remember. Bronchitis aged 11? Touch of childhood asthma? Hay fever leading to wheezing? There you go.

    However, I have no objection at all to coming in on a rota to LOOK AFTER ESSENTIAL WORKERS’ KIDS but I’ll be damned sooner than come in to teach classes while this virus isn’t under control. Also, I want hand sanitiser freely available and perhaps a face mask, even if I’m covering a rota for 6 kids per room sitting far apart.

    Has someone told Nicola her instructions are being ignored?
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2020
  3. grayst

    grayst New commenter

    For what it's worth, in Edinburgh schools all pupils and staff are out all week, no exceptions.

    The instructions changed Friday mid-morning. I was annoyed at the time since I'd just spent 2 hours finding second prelims to do, but now I'm glad.

    You might want to let your management know and ask if it's good enough for Edinburgh, how come it doesn't apply to you.
  4. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    Right, sorry for being a bit thick, but:

    1) Are schools open from tomorrow, or not?
    2) Are teachers obliged to go in, or not?
  5. MilkyBar Kid

    MilkyBar Kid Occasional commenter

    No and No
    NS made it even clearer this afternoon, no S4 to S6 pupils have to attend school. Schools have closed as places of learning, school buildings will be used as emergency childcare centres. Teachers should be at home ensuring continuity of learning for their classes. Any teachers going into school tomorrow clearly do not understand the life and death severity of the situation, irrespective of how much pressure HTs place on them.
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  6. Ezzie

    Ezzie Occasional commenter

    From a primary perspective. We are in school tomorrow (no children) to find out which of our area’s schools will be the ‘community hub’ and what will be expected of us. Not sure what will happen for the rest of the week. I’m under the impression we will get our Easter break. However, the situation changes every 5 minutes so who really knows?
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  7. Ezzie

    Ezzie Occasional commenter

    And then... an hour later... no staff in school at all tomorrow. Watch this space.
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  8. aypi

    aypi Senior commenter

    There was a press release at about 4. Up till then it was yes and yes BJ
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  9. johnw84

    johnw84 New commenter

    Borders Council here. All teachers still in school tomorrow!
  10. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    Hence my confusion!
  11. mousey1394

    mousey1394 New commenter

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  12. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    That link doesn't exactly say much, does it? Other than "we'll tell you how to estimate soon". Typical SQAspeak. Professional judgement? My bottom!
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  13. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    All around us we are seeing acts of kindness and community, from children simply looking out for their neighbours to firms, large and small, paying out wages many of them probably can't afford.

    And then we have Sports Direct's Mike Ashley and Wetherspoon's Tim Martin trying to squeeze pennies, literally pennies, from their staff and customers.

    When this global, once a century, health crisis is over let's hope that people remember the unacceptable face of capitalism.
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  14. davieee

    davieee Occasional commenter

    Correct, they're fabulously wealthy. They get their profits and wealth from the ordinary people and, in general terms, i've no problem with that.

    When this is over folk will continue to purchase their goods with money from the ordinary people (UK taxes) that they have shafted especially when the UK govt have guaranteed 80% or their wages. They, with all their profits couldn't even commit to pay their workers 20%.

    Bear in mind that most of their workers are on fixed hours contracts i.e 16 hrs but may actually work 30hrs so Wetherspoons / JD Sports are only liable for 20% of 16hrs then it makes it even more galling.

    My oldest works part time for a telephone company. Contractually for 16hrs per week but does more when Uni permits. They've guaranteed 16hrs per week for 3 months on full pay. No questions.

    Ashley & Rice are rogues and should be shunned.
  15. MilkyBar Kid

    MilkyBar Kid Occasional commenter

    One week down, 21 to go till we return in August, or possibly Oct if social distancing continues into the autumn. Interesting piece on 'Politics Scotland' this morning on the long-term impact of lockdown/social distancing in terms of economy/retail. How do we think it will impact education long-term, if any? Will everything go back to normal? I think at the very least we will be expected to engage in more online learning for our pupils. Also I think more LAs will be looking to reduce the time spent in school buildings (to save money, of course). Those that havn't already moved to a 4.5 day week will quickly follow with some calling for and experimenting with a 4 day week.
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  16. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    Yes, I think there will be changes too. Driven by the need to save money, but presented as "lessons learned" by the government and councils.

    Any move to distance learning will be tempered by the need to protect vulnerable people. I question this as an educational concern, rather it's a social concern.

    4-day week? I can see it coming but don't see the savings. Staff will still need to be paid so are the savings purely heating etc? Perhaps a drive to reduce teacher salaries, given the late daily starts/early finishes and all those holidays?

    Who knows?
  17. GuessWho

    GuessWho Occasional commenter

    In my experience, from the past week, very few kids are engaging with the online stuff provided.
    Out of the 100 or so pupils I've set up on MS teams via Glow only about 5 have uploaded material or engaged with me for assistance (and they are all S1.)

    That's not to say others haven't done some work however I have no evidence that they have attempted anything.

    When we do get back to school (which may well be in the autumn if we are "lucky") there will be major issues with S3 into S4 and S4 into S5 in terms of completing courses for exams in 2021.

    It would be nice to know how the SQA will deal with that situation.
  18. vforvendetta

    vforvendetta New commenter

    Been a while since I posted. Anyone know if anything is being done for supply teachers? My income stream has now dried up if the school stay shut.
  19. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    Sorry to hear that. Haven't heard a thing. Union?
  20. davieee

    davieee Occasional commenter

    The EIS sent an email out earlier saying they were in discussions regarding supply staff and hope to have an agreement in place soon.

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