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Concerns re adequate online learning..

Discussion in 'Education news' started by ridleyrumpus, Apr 30, 2020.

  1. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    I have written to Amanda Spielman, the chief inspector of schools, to express concern that many schools are not providing adequate online learning & support during the crisis.
    @Ofstednews has a key role to play in monitoring schools & highlighting good & poor practice

    Andrew Adonis

  2. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

    Ignore him he's drunk
  3. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Loving the comments on twitter...all fantastic.
    agathamorse and ridleyrumpus like this.
  4. Sisyphus_rolls_again

    Sisyphus_rolls_again Established commenter

    Andrew Adonis, the guy who said 'contextual value added doesn't help students get to university'.

    So OFSTED and the DfE stopped considering the context of a school in it's progress judgements.
    agathamorse likes this.
  5. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    He's welcome to take my bottom set year 10s for an hour and demonstrate
  6. physicsfanboy

    physicsfanboy Occasional commenter

    He's welcome to take a long walk off a short pier. What an ar&ehole.
  7. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    I don’t for a moment apologise for saying yesterday that every state school should provide a full online learning programme & that Ofsted should be highlighting good & poor practice

    I’ve yet to meet a parent or a motivated student who doesn’t agree. So I think do most teachers"

    Andrew Adonis


    Well that's a non reply to the push back he got for yesterday's ill thought out tweet.
    agathamorse likes this.
  8. colacao17

    colacao17 Senior commenter

    Just displaying how out of touch, how utterly ignorant he is of the learning process, the needs of the students the limitations of the technology and how completely unfit for purpose he and the organisation he represents are.

    Not just not helping education, actively destroying it.

    The man is a complete and utter waste of time and education would be in a far better state if he had never existed.
  9. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    Now don't hold back, just say it as you see it...
    colacao17 and agathamorse like this.
  10. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    Having read his wiki I can see where he could have got his perception of poor online learning, he is a director of RM.

    (mutters "never in my 30 years in IT have I seen such a SS of a firm as RM, overpriced *** using proprietary tech to lock you in. Their **** held back IT in schools for a decade or more")
    border_walker and agathamorse like this.
  11. colacao17

    colacao17 Senior commenter

    Ohhhhhh .........so in reality he's hoping to promote the tech sold by his own firm and line his own pocket?
    Another one wanting his snout further into the trough, hoping to fleece the general public.

    I'd have the likes of him up against a wall.
    Catgirl1964 and agathamorse like this.
  12. ACOYEAR8

    ACOYEAR8 Senior commenter

    Adequate or not, it only has any value at all if the end user (students) are using it. Is it proposed that homes are inspected. Parents whose own school experience was negative will often, but not always, pass on their feeling to their children. The students who did no work in my lessons continue to do no work now they're at home. Moreover, a family with 2 or 3 kids at school is going to find it tough to organise computer access to anything regardless of its quality.
  13. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    Ay you can lead a horse to water...

    I suppose there could be an expectation to call the parents of every child who has not completed their work, as well as do video lessons, set work, prepare work, mark work, supervise their own children doing their work, multi tasking access to it, and .....
    Sally006, agathamorse and Catgirl1964 like this.
  14. pair_of_argyles

    pair_of_argyles Occasional commenter

    In the early 21st C. the BBC built on their TV and radio schools materials to provide a vast range of high quality free easily available on-line educational sources - Bitesize; Learning Zone; Learning Portal etc . All of which were well used and updated regularly. These would have been a god-send for all in times like these

    Unfortunately In 2007 BESA (The British Educational Suppliers Association) took the BBC to the European Court who ruled that the BBC JAM on-line materials represented state aided anti competitive materials

    In 2009/2010 the same organisation submitted a Fair Trading complaint to the BBC stating that their education programming was anti competitive.

    Consequently the BBC had to remove almost all of their (TV and radio included) educational materials.

    I leave you to join the dots
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  15. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

  16. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    I intervene in education debates rarely nowadays & had forgotten how negative the vanguard of ‘oppositional’ teacher leaders are to requirements for public accountability. They regard public expectations as an imposition not a duty

    Fortunately most teachers are far more positive

    Andrew Adonis


    Just how deep can he dig that hole?
  17. Skeoch

    Skeoch Lead commenter

    Anecdote only. Daughter has been ranting on the phone. Granddaughter in Y4 has been given next to nothing to do by the school, no clear programme beyond arithmetic drill and practice. On that one anecdote, Adonis is right.
    However whether this is reflected in other schools and other year groups I have no idea.
  18. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    Speech in the house of lord
    Yr4 Covid lockdown should be to very little academically imho, drawing, gardening (if possible), nature walks etc etc.
  19. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Is he? Or are the school right to say "You know something. You'll never get this chance again. Have an extended amount of time to play and have fun. Enjoy these bonus few months away from the pressures of school. We trust you and your parents to decide what is right and what you can do."
  20. Skeoch

    Skeoch Lead commenter

    Except that any reasonable prediction is that normal school won't be in action until September. If kids were off school for that long under normal circumstances, teachers would be jumping up and down about it.
    I accept that it's difficult and that it's especially difficult for the younger groups.

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