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Comparing total student load per teacher

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by LittleMissMagic, Nov 12, 2015.

  1. LittleMissMagic

    LittleMissMagic New commenter

    I have taught for over a decade in both state and private schools and in schools in several countries (including British International schools). I am currently feeling under-supported and finding it impossible to do a good job without working regular 12-14h days. Even with this, there is continual negative pressure and fear tactics used by leadership.

    I am trying to get an idea of whether this is, in fact, the usual (having most recently come from a non-British school) and to what extent I really do have an excessive workload.

    I have a student load of 177 students
    I teach 10 classes across 6 year groups and a mixture of double and triple students at both Y10 and Y11.
    Timetable is 80% with fairly regular covers (average one per week, no protected PPA time)
    3 x 20min duties per week.
    One 20min and one 55min break per day.
    Registration at least once per day (shared) and one period form time / assembly per week.
    We are also expected to maintain, for each class, a school web page up-to-date with student homework, class work for absent students to use for catch up and further study resources.

    What most adds to the workload, I feel, are having 177 students to know, assess and try to guide individually.

    How does this compare to you? Am I just one of the many hard-pressed teachers? (Of course, I know that we all have a tough time!) Or is this on the heavy side of the UK workloads?

    I would very much appreciate feedback in order to gauge from as large a sample size as possible!

    Thank you in advance
     
  2. twitterbix

    twitterbix New commenter

    I work 0.8. I teach 157 students over 8 groups, 2 of my groups are single lessons out of my subject that requires very little planning and no marking so I feel like I really only teach 137 students.
    I don't have a tutor group but instead write UCAS reference so have a cohort of 30 students to guide through UCAS with 3 tutor times taken up with this and the other tutor time taken up with assembly.
    I have 3 ten minute duties.
    I have one 15 minute break and 1hr for lunch every day.
     
  3. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

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    Yes, life is hard for teachers and I really appreciate the fact that people are, in general, over-worked and over-stressed.

    But not actually teaching any longer here in UK, I cannot comment fairly on what you are doing.

    The one comment that I will make, @LittleMissMagic , is that teaching a 80% timetable is not the norm in maintained schools or Academies.

    It is normally 90%

    And your 55 minute lunch break is quite generous too. Are you in the independent sector?

    Best wishes

    .
     
  4. sabrinakat

    sabrinakat Star commenter

    Last school (state/academy): 320 at KS3, 40 at KS 4, 20 at KS5 - total school roll at 1600. 15 minutes break duty once a week; 50 minute lunch, 80% timetable as 'NQT'; worked at home every night, most weekends, after school revision once a week. No own classroom, went to 10-15different rooms across the week (one day had five different rooms). Most colleagues lovely, stressed, ill and in tears at times.

    New school (independent) - 200 in entire school, largest class is 12 students, form tutor with both am and pm registration, offer a lunch-time drop in language clinic once a week. 80% timetable with at least 1 free a day, cover done in library (I bring a text to translate) with loads of notice. Own classroom. Now: normal stress, much happier.

    I do have to do reports, data collection, meetings, workbook marking, etc, but it just seems more manageable now. I know how lucky I am
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2015
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  5. ScienceGuy

    ScienceGuy Established commenter

    As a fellow Science teacher, my load is as follows

    90 KS3 students (3 groups of 30)
    122 KS4 groups (5 groups ranging from 16 in a bottom set to 32 in a Triple Science class)
    53 KS5 students (across AS and A2 Biology, and A2 Chemistry)
    As I have a KS responsibility my teaching load is 82% so slightly lower than a standard teacher which would be 86% (not including registration times)

    I would suggest OP that your timetable is better than most and is certainly better than any non-promoted teacher in my school / department
     
  6. varcolac

    varcolac Occasional commenter

    I have near on 300 across 12 classes.

    30 per class of 8 KS3 classes - 240
    25 in my KS4 lot - 25
    2 groups of 12 at Y12
    1 group of 6 at Y13

    Some of the faces are the same (some KS5 students taking both subjects I teach, one KS3 class being taught both subjects by me) but that still means 295 books to mark every fortnight and about 260 faces to learn.
     
  7. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    In my experience the worst off are those such as RS teachers who often only teach one lesson a week to most groups. Other Humanities teachers aren't quite so badly off, and those who teach subjects such as English & Maths tend to teach fewer groups (but more often) so see fewer pupils per week.

    The difference between state and private schools as regards class sizes & teacher load is extreme.
     
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  8. varcolac

    varcolac Occasional commenter

    RS teachers actually have it pretty good in our school as it's a religious school and thus they have it twice a week. The other Humanities have them thrice a fortnight. Music has it worst 'round these parts as it's once a week and taught in forms. My music teacher friends still don't know the names of half their Key Stage Three classes.
     
  9. Skyler

    Skyler New commenter

    I'm Head of a small option department.

    I teach 297 students across 12 classes (one core subject, plus my option subject)

    85% timetable (51/60 periods across 2 weeks)
    Tutor group shared (40/60)
    3 x duties per 2 weeks (10 min before school, 15 min break, 10 min after school)
    1 after school club (mandatory 50 minutes)
    1 x 15 min break and 35 minute lunch per day
    Regular after school meetings, one evening each week

    It's a tough life right now. I run to keep up.
     
  10. 576

    576 Established commenter

    I teach 178 pupils
    11 classes
    4 different year groups
    and a tutor group.
    Teaching 30 periods out of 45

    I'm actually not in UK - in a small international school - I teach about 75% of the school body!
     
  11. lidlest

    lidlest New commenter

    I'm HOD

    I have a student load of 232 students
    I teach 8 classes across 5 year groups, 6 of those gcse classes - 3 in year 11
    Timetable is 39/50 with 2 of those taken for line management
    revision session once a week
    1 x 20min duties per week 2 X 10
    One 20min and one 40 min break per day.
    Registration twice a day with 20 minute tutorial time
    We are also expected to maintain, for each class, show my homework and doddle, set class work for students in alternative provision and mark fortnightly.

    i also create all documentation for my dept on top of that
     
  12. -myrtille-

    -myrtille- Occasional commenter

    I teach a total of 261 pupils across 11 different classes, plus a mentor group of 25 pupils (some of whom I also teach).

    This is teaching a full timetable of 27 lessons out of 30.
     
  13. LittleMissMagic

    LittleMissMagic New commenter

    Thanks for sharing, everyone. It's good to get some perspective. I wish I knew how you all cope with working regular 14h days and weekends. It's getting me down. I do not feel that 'other people have it harder' is helpful advice, but it is good to be reminded that it could be worse.
     
  14. drek

    drek Star commenter

    As some staff are forced to spend upto 2 hours per student writing 600 word glowing references, even for those with failing grades, spare a thought for those teachers, who are fighting to get even standard references from schools, no matter how many 10 hour days they've put in!
    Such is the callousness with which our school staff treat each other!
    Teachers who've helped thousands upon thousands of students on their way to university, but after 10 or 20 years of teaching, some fool for money comes along and denounces the teacher, because they want someone cheaper, waves a magic wand over someone else and pronounces them 'outstanding' whether they are subject specialists or not, can speak english not, have experience or not, and then present a 'report' to ofsted and the dfe about how they've succeeded in raising standards.
     

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