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Climate change: the other side

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Jonntyboy, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. Jonntyboy

    Jonntyboy Lead commenter

    For those concerned about our imminent deaths in the furnace that the earth is soon to become - and to help us allay the fears of the kids we teach who have been exposed to too much Gretaganda - there is a wealth of data out there that show just what a hoax this all is.

    One particularly measured and calm presentation, factually based, is the following. It has the merit of being short and clear. (It also includes, for those of us who follow with increasing bemusement US politics, a neat little dig at AOC). There are thousands of others, mostly delivered by highly-qualified experts.

    I'm glad to say that I am teaching the kids I work with NOT to accept at face value everything they hear and see simply because a supposed "scientist" is talking. I've shown them what junk science is, and am happy to say that I've been supported in that by my science teacher colleagues.

    In my opinion, one of the greatest threats to future generations in the West is the restriction of freedoms, especially that of speech - especially the insidious "you are not permitted to offend" sort of approach that over the past few years has become the hallmark of the intolerant, totalitarian left. At this time of year, more than any other, we have in Europe the opportunity to remember how many gave their lives, directly or indirectly, to preserve those freedoms for us.

    One way to ensure that we retain them is relentlessly to insist that all views, ideas, stories, webcasts, documentaries, articles, conclusions, ideologies, and beliefs should be open to rigorous challenge, irrespective of who - or how many - are promoting them. In a world of so many competing media, where money-making is often the game and where malign influences and vested interests cannot always easily be identified, the best thing we can tell our students, in my view, is "challenge, check , consider."
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  2. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    The way it ought to be, and was throughout my education.

    Yes indeed. We see it on this forum from time to time.
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  3. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

  4. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    Well I've been pondering on that and nope....I cannot see any of my freedoms being restricted simply because people are getting gobby. And as a parent I'm not sure I'm very worried about my children's freedoms begin restricted.

    While I'm here-do you have any views on the East, or is it just half of the planet which is likely to suffer greater restriction of freedom than environmental damage through human activity?

  5. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

  6. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

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  7. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    Don't worry, Scintillant wil be along soon to pluck his one-stringed harp.
    artboyusa likes this.
  8. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    We've had this discussion sooooo many times. Which is why I asked (on the other recent thread) if the OP was Lexus in disguise. I should think he posted every video & link disagreeing that climate change was happening because of people's actions available on the internet.
  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    I'll just wish all participants in this thread the best of luck.
  10. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    What's really funny is that we aren't going to end as we think we might. It'll be as a result of trying to put something right.
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  11. colacao17

    colacao17 Senior commenter

    You're not a scientist are you, jontyboy?
  12. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    And you señor Colacao?
  13. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter


  14. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    If anyone would like to explain what is causing the excess heating we are experiencing if you do not consider it be human generated CO2, place your theories below. I'll copy them and email them to Nature and become an overnight millionaire.

    Unless it's utter gibberish of course... (see Post #1)

    Roll up folks. Don't be shy...
  15. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    By the way, Craig Idso is the idiot who thinks climate change is down to aerosols.

    Aerosols actually mask the effects of climate change.
  16. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Can you post tomorrow's lottery number too please Miss.
  17. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    So we should buy shares in Lynx?
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  18. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Attached Files:

  19. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Brut33 is far more effective.
  20. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Really? So can we bring back cfc's in refrigerators? New fridges don't last as long.
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