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China offers to do HS2; quicker build, faster trains, no hassle.....

Discussion in 'Personal' started by BigFrankEM, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. BigFrankEM

    BigFrankEM Established commenter

  2. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

  3. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Does that mean the need to bring lots of Chinese workers into the country to build the line,

    In other parts of the world where they have been building infrastructure, they have brought in lots of Chinese workers and some of those have become colonisers of the area and are causing criticism as their skills and ability to work hard are upsetting/destroying some of the trading plans of locals.
    I am sure a lot of the Chinese nation would love t move and settle in the UK given the chance.
    JL48 likes this.
  4. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

    In China there is none of that troublesome rights stuff to worry about. They can bulldoze an entire village with the people still in their houses if they need to put down railtracks and no need to worry about peoples' rights.

    yep, that'll work.
    JL48 likes this.
  5. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    CRCC have recently been debarred from World Bank financed projects for fraudulent behaviour. During the bid process for a major infrastructure program, CRCC:

    "misrepresented the personnel and equipment, and falsely attributed the experience of other entities in the group"

    And, the Nikkei Asian Review reports that with CRCC:

    "Its overseas strategy is basically the same as Beijing’s foreign policy. While CRCC can benefit from the government’s infrastructure export policy, many developed countries argue it has problems in ensuring transparency in management and safety,”
  6. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    We'll probably accept them then.
  7. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    Yes. To get HS2 built we could evict people with 48 hours notice with a good offer to rehouse them in another part of the country. If they resist or protest we can send bullies round to beat them up.
  8. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter


    China bullet train crash 'caused by design flaws'
    • 28 December 2011

    Image captionChina's cabinet has received the official report into the crash
    A bullet train crash which killed 40 people in China in July was caused by design flaws and sloppy management, the Chinese government says.

    Almost 200 people were injured in the crash near the south-eastern city of Wenzhou.

    "Missteps" by 54 officials led to the disaster, the long-awaited official report says.

    The crash led many Chinese to accuse the government of putting development and profit before safety.
  9. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

    That’s the ticket
  10. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    And no need to worry about newts. We can scoop them up and sell them for a good price at the local market with the bats and toads.
    oldsomeman, emerald52 and artboyusa like this.
  11. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    If we can't build it ourselves we shouldn't have it.

    As with all these projects the main, sub and sub-sub contractors won't even lift a finger. They'll draw no plans, deal with any materials, employ anyone or distribute any financing.

    That's how it works (or doesn't work). Think of a number, double it and again.
    blazer likes this.
  12. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    I still am amazed by the lack of connectivity to HS1. Why is this terminating at Euston and not Kings X St Pancras or even Stratford. Surely there should be the option of direct trains running from HS2 to continental destinations by passing central London altogether. And Curzon Street is totally disconnected from New Street.
  13. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    Can't possibly do that, we have Brexited you know!
  14. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Maybe Boris has been reading about America's trans-continental railway, the most difficult sections of which through the Rockies were built by Chinese labourers. More likely he's putting a shot across the bows of British contractors about costing.
  15. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

    I think that you are spot on.
  16. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    Who were whipped, starved and died by the hundreds.

    Is Michael Gove going to be in charge?
    JL48 and monicabilongame like this.
  17. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    It's all a legacy of the decision to abandon Regional Eurostar because it was decided that people from the midlands and north preferred to fly to Europe - and providing customs posts at regional stations for what would probably be only one train a day was thought to be uneconomic. It's something that should be reconsidered now that global warming is bound to restrict air travel in the future.
    burajda and emerald52 like this.
  18. emerald52

    emerald52 Star commenter

    It was also a cost saving. Andrew Adonis was on the original plan for HS2 and was bemoaning how it had been watered down from the fully integrated plans.
    JL48 likes this.
  19. Kandahar

    Kandahar Lead commenter

    I doubt that it will. If anything, airport travel will continue to expand.
  20. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    If I was designing HS2 I'd run it from St Pancras to Heathrow, linking to GWR and then to Bham airport.
    gainly and JL48 like this.

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