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Changes to author tiers from December 1st

Discussion in 'Tes Authors' Group' started by tesAuthorTeam, Nov 2, 2018.

  1. tesAuthorTeam

    tesAuthorTeam Administrator Staff Member TES Authors' forum host

    The tech team reported that they fixed all the outstanding bugs with the dashboard that were reported about an hour and a half ago. But if anyone does spot any more, please email: help@tes.com.

    Tes Author Team [Michael]
  2. MosaiK

    MosaiK Occasional commenter

    Thank you, it works for me now. :)

    Also, the sale-banner is now showing across the top of my dashboard... though it seems all % comes out of my return... o_O?
  3. labellaroma

    labellaroma Occasional commenter

    I am not too happy that Tes will be advertising tomorrow that we the authors will be running our own sales. I actually think Tes are a bit cheeky suggesting this. I will choose when I want to run my own sales. Tes are not as generous with their sales as they were once upon a time, which I consider to be very mean of them!
    heelis likes this.
  4. heelis

    heelis New commenter

    I am having the same problem, I am moving all of my resources over to *** and ******* but it is taking me ages. I've been at it all day and still have 130 left to download!
    treeickle likes this.
  5. MaryCarr51

    MaryCarr51 New commenter

    Since this has made it even more difficult than it already is and I, too, feel like I was just demoted, I'll be removing my resources as soon as I get the time.
    Just not worth it for so little.
    heelis likes this.
  6. nwilkin

    nwilkin Occasional commenter

    I didn't think you can submit to ******* if it has been published elsewhere, their terms state it can only be resources that have not been published before and you have to agree to sign over your moral rights to the resources to AQA, so can't also upload them to ***. You had better check before you upload your stuff from TES to *******.
    MosaiK and rainynightmusic like this.
  7. MosaiK

    MosaiK Occasional commenter

    I sent you (@heelis) a private message about this earlier... :)
  8. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Pictures of animal poo? Oh. My. God. It’s like finding out that they twenty stinentrustraffain got a better sports scholarship than the kid
    Tried that too! TES are really letting me down here. When I found out about the new drop in my status ( what’s new there!) - I thought I should do a sale. Due to an almighty software screwup, I cannot access my shop, files, promotions page...anything that requires editing commands. Hmmm....
  9. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    I find chucking the lever arch files which symbolise lost earnings across the room helps.
    penyrheol1 and heelis like this.
  10. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Tried that. I just get ‘please wait’ pop up and freeze the page. Do you want the url? Anything you need, please email.
  11. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Yet some of the best resources I’ve purchased have belonged to authors like yourself with a small but beautiful selection.
  12. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Is she falling between two stools?
    penyrheol1 likes this.
  13. heelis

    heelis New commenter

    Oh dear, I can't access any of my resources.
    erm, where can I find this lol
  14. labellaroma

    labellaroma Occasional commenter

    You will find your message in 'conversations'.
    heelis likes this.
  15. MMaths23

    MMaths23 New commenter

    This is so demotivating, I can't believe that some author's manage to earn £1000+ a year, never mind £6000+ I'm lucky if I hit £300! The only thing I can think of is that my lessons are very much 'chalk and talk' and not 'all singing and dancing'. I just can't understand how this is fair for some authors. I appreciate that some have taken the biscuit, but it seems like the many are being penalised for the few. I can't say I would recommend this platform to other authors, and I think I will stick to using this site purely for checking job availability. I may sound like a sour grape, but I spent quite a bit of time building up my resources, to be pushed back down to Bronze - it is simply a kick in the teeth. Maybe we should all make our resources free and see what happens then - TES would lose out massively, I expect.
  16. martinjgoulden

    martinjgoulden New commenter

    I just wanted to put another tally stroke in the 'unimpressed' vote. I, for one, will not be looking at investing my time into making many more resources for TES. I just felt like I was getting somewhere with sales and was looking at the possibility of working from home one day a month to dedicate more time to it. However, based on the amount of time it would now take to get back up to Gold is ludicrous (based on the current selling trend on the types of resources I produce).

    I'm sure that there are a handful of people out there that will jump straight to gold and I'm happy that are creating something that is clearly a benefit to their customers. Unfortunately though, similar to society, it looks like those that already make plenty of money (the minority) will continue to do so and those in the middle and at the bottom (the majority) will have more taken from them.

    December 1st will be a sad day for TES resources I fear.
  17. AliJC

    AliJC New commenter

  18. AliJC

    AliJC New commenter

    I agree with those who feel disappointed to have been demoted. I'm down to Bronze level now because my high-quality drama resources don't sell in the quantities that other less specialised resources do. Please don't take this the wrong way but saying '
    I totally agree with you. I'm demoted too because I specialise in drama, which is practically a redundant subject in most schools. I sell what I can without any support (even the occasional Retweet!) from @tes. Now I'm being penalised for poor sales, despite the high quality of my resources. @tes should have applied the rules to new authors only and left the rest of us alone. Unless something radically changes - a new government more favourably disposed towards the arts for example - I will remain a Bronze seller for ever. Very disheartening and disappointing.
  19. myersale

    myersale New commenter

    It's probably all been said before, but here are my two cents about these changes.

    1. I joined TES about three years ago but have only really started using it earnestly (i.e. trying to make actual money by uploading quality resources, becoming a Gold member etc.) for a month. Having had some success on the competitor's site, who shall not be named, I figured TES might be an even better fit, because I focus on creating English literature resources for upper schools and with English curricula in mind.

    2. Now I find out that I'm being dropped form Gold status to Bronze status. The initial reaction was: 'Wait, what? Why? 60% instead of 80% is significant. That means that almost half of my revenue, no let's make that 50% of my sales revenue goes to another's pocket, either to TES (40%) or to VAT (what a lovely, transparent and incredibly silly system you have here, by the way...). That's quite a mouthful to swallow.

    3. Even if I become a silver seller (which is likely), I'll probably never reach gold unless I stop teaching and focus exclusively on creating resources, and even then, there are no guarantees, and since I teach in Switzerland and actually like my job, why would I do that?

    This is what I think about TES's changes, after further reflections:

    - The £6000 threshold for Gold status is quite deliberate. It's clear to even the less business-minded of us that TES had too many Gold-status sellers (it was fairly easy, after all, to upload 100 resources, esp. after more than 10 years of teaching experience, and considering that TES has virtually no quality control... the development does not surprise me!). Gold status doesn't earn TES enough money ("isn't viable", I believe, is the term they used in their explanation.

    - Thus, it follows that they want more revenue without completely ripping you off, and that leads to the sweet spot and fairly low threshold for Silver status: £1000. 30% revenue, bundles, the silly transaction fee reduced by 10p (that's laughable, TES, stop touting it as if you were giving up a major slice of the cake!)

    - Competitor sites offer Bundles and whatever 'support' TES promises. I haven't been able to publish my newest resource for the past two days, and I don't expect much support to come from TES about this either.... So they've worked out that they want most of their sellers to have Silver status. 30% revenue from most sellers is 10% more revenue than 20% from most sellers.

    What I can't stand is the ridiculous spin they've put on this. Let's face it, they don't care about quality control, because if they did, they would have tackled the whole issue completely differently. I'm not going to make suggestions because that's not my job, but competitors are doing a much better job of this than you, TES!

    - Lastly, I'm surprised that TES hasn't adopted a Premium yearly subscription fee like other competitors. This ensures revenue for them, is a form of indirect quality control because only those who want to invest serious time into using TES as a source of altenrative income will pay the fee, and makes content creation attractive by incentivizing the whole thing the way competitors have. If a Subscription model is not viable for you TES, you need to rethink your business model, because most competitors are doing this now, and having done the maths, most content creators, I am sure, perfer this to what you have done with royalties here.

    That was perhaps more than two cents, but there it is...
  20. myersale

    myersale New commenter

    Another 2 cents:

    Where competitors try to create a win-win situation, TES, miraculously, has created a lose-lose situation. Because of the subscription model used by competitors, and because of the better revenue, and because of much reduced transaction fees (mostly inexistent on competitor site), I can offer the same resources at a lower price. The profit margin for me remains the same, my buyers pay less, and the level of support and the UI of the competitor is the same. So why should I continue to use TES? And why is the biggest PPD (pay-per-download) site the most greedy? Transaction fees remain, ergo prices remain above 3 GBP (or do you see everyone lowering their price as a result of the 10p reduction in transaction fees? NO!) If you drop from Gold to Bronze status (like I will on Dec 1), I will receive 20% less revenue (60% instead of 80%), and that’s before VAT (not calculated on other sites) = significant drop in overall revenue. Many buyers will probably try to adapt their prices a little to take less of a hit, but that will scare away sellers. Let’s face it, teachers aren’t the wealthiest, so why should they suddenly pay 50p more for a resource of a few pages?)

    Based on the responses from many, you’re about to lose a lot of users to competitors, TES. Enjoy the fallout.

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