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Changes afoot in supply teaching

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by GrayFox23, Jan 16, 2016.

  1. GrayFox23

    GrayFox23 New commenter

    I have been informed by my agency that there will be huge changes in supply teaching after April. Anyone know what they are?
     
  2. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    The only thing I can think of is the closing of the expenses tax loop hole for those that use an umbrella company.
     
  3. tackles

    tackles Occasional commenter

    I think Yoda's right. Supply teachers will no longer be able to claim travel expenses when working through an umbrella company. Mind you, that's always been a bit dodgy anyway.

    When this happens the umbrella companies will not be such an attractive proposition for supply teachers to use as the main 'perk' that they try to sell their services on will have gone.
     
  4. GrayFox23

    GrayFox23 New commenter

    Thanks Yoda.

    So will it be a matter of setting up a limited company on my own?

    Thanks
     
  5. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    You could still be paid PAYE by your agencies.

    Don't forget your public indemnity and liability insurance if you go down the self employed limited company route.

    https://www.hiscox.co.uk/business-i...gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CLmTtOGLr8oCFY4dFgod110AwQ

    Obviously there are other insurance companies. I included this one because it's well known. It's not a recommendation. I am not qualified to give advice. Some of the information seems relevant.
     
  6. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    If you become self employed (without setting up a limited company) you may be insured for liability/accident whilst working through membership of a teaching union, so this is worth checking too. Word of warning: even if you go down the self employed/limited company route don't cancel your union subscription.
     
  7. PizzoCalabro

    PizzoCalabro Established commenter

    Just be PAYE like you always shoulda.
    Agencies will have margins squeezed, so maybe preparing you for the spiele when they say that they have to cut your rate... Don't be suckered for that.
     
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  8. nearmiss

    nearmiss Lead commenter

    The change of which they speak is the clarifecation of guidelines on tax beaks against travel and subsistence for temporary workers in an overarching contract with an employment intermediary which is assumed to be included in the next budget. Bet you wish you'd never asked. What this means is that the agencies will no longer be able to put their payroll through umbrella companies.
    The exact terms of the new regulations remain to be seen.
    Now then Snowyhead, don't go telling folks they need public liability insurance and suchlike, nor that they need to set up a company. You can be a sole trader and just bill the client school whose insurances will cover you while you are on their premises as temporary staff.
     
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  9. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

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    Sole trader?

    As a sole trader, you run your own business as an individual. You can keep all your business's profits after you've paid tax on them. You can employ staff. 'Sole trader'means you're responsible for the business, not that you have to work alone.
     
  10. nearmiss

    nearmiss Lead commenter

    Exactly. No need to register with company's house to be a self employed free lance supply teacher. In effect you are a sole trade. Mange tout Rodney. Next year we could all be millionaires.
     
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  11. schoolsout4summer

    schoolsout4summer Star commenter

    Now let me see if I have got this right. If I am a poor little rich boy MP like, I dunno, Jacob Rhys Mogg, then I can still claim for my travel to and my lunch at the House of Commons, but if I am a wealthy supply teacher then I will be unable to claim for the same when carrying out my own "professional" duties?
     
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  12. nearmiss

    nearmiss Lead commenter

    Well, yes you can. If you are self employed you can claim tax breaks. Using a UC you are technically not self employed so you can't. Therefore, ditch the agency, ditch the UC and go it alone.
     
  13. Twinklefoottoe

    Twinklefoottoe Senior commenter

    How to set yourself up with a limited company by someone who has done it

    It takes 10 minutes to set up a limited company and costs anywhere from £30 to £150 online. You will need someone like a spouse, parent or friend to agree to be a Company Secretary but they won't need to do anything 99% of the time. You pick a name, start your company with e.g. 100 shares (which you all own) and you're done.

    Next, pick a bank and set up a simple business account. Most offer free banking for a year, after that, you pay for every cheque / debit and payment in but it won't amount to more than £100 a year. There's a few hoops to jump through, providing ID etc, but nothing too taxing.

    Get an enhanced DBS check done (search online for companies that can do this for a fee on your behalf) and pay for update services. Prepare a killer CV, fully proof-read and triple-checked for errors and a covering letter, with photo, using top quality pastel paper - search online for examples. Then send them to schools with a short cover letter saying you're a fully qualified e.g. Maths teacher, Computer Science teacher etc, and detailing your experience and references.

    You don't have to have limited liability insurance but you can get it if you want to - about £200 a year. Search online.

    You then start trading. You simply need to keep two lists, one for outgoings, money you spend e.g salary, new phone, iPad, camera, new laptop and printer, business trip abroad etc (seriously, there are ways .....), and one for incomings, invoices you issue to schools. And that is it. No seriously, that is all you have to do every year to run a limited company.

    You have to file a company return once a year (2 minutes online and costs £13) and preset one set of approved accounts ( between £300 - £600 approx) each year, which any accountant can do, including very cheap online ones (which you can use because your business is very simple).

    Your company then pays the taxman one cheque per year at 20%. In addition, you pay yourself a monthly salary, which is usually the minimum wage for tax reasons, and also a dividend once or twice a year.dividend. You can do your own payroll and pay NI or get your accountant to do it for you (about £200 a year). Your accountant can advise. You can't be a member of a TPS but there is nothing stopping you reducing your tax bill by starting your own pension scheme.

    Charge £195 a day to start with and see what happens. Then increase / decrease your rates to demand. You will still be undercutting agencies. Each week, you issue your school with an invoice, lots of simple examples are online. I'm currently charging £260 a day from now until Easter, and I'm cheap! Next time, it will be £300 a day (Computer Science).

    The additional advantages of having a company is that you can branch out e.g. employ other supply teachers to work for you and undercut traditional agencies, make and sell resources via the company, the relief of being in charge of your own destiny etc.

    Alternatively, let the agency continue to flatter you (it's free) and then let them pay you £120 a day, if you are happy to be ripped off for the sake of a few hours admin each year. Agencies can make upwards of ****** £700 ****** a week on the backs of your hard work. Think about it!!

    I hope this helps anyone thinking of going down this route.
     
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  14. GrayFox23

    GrayFox23 New commenter

    Does anyone have experience of doing this in London with primary schools?
     
  15. Kenmuir1

    Kenmuir1 New commenter

    It's all going to end. Not that it hasn't for most already
    A very dark year for supply that peopl,e cannot afford to ignore.
     
  16. GrayFox23

    GrayFox23 New commenter

    Please, give it a rest mate.
     
  17. Kenmuir1

    Kenmuir1 New commenter

    I find his very hard to do so I'm afraid
    Especially when most on these TES boards are oblivious and living in a fools paradise, constantly singing lullabies that supply is somehow a feasible way to earn a living and that everything is OK, when it is not and will get worse for everyone. It makes me sick that people can be so naive and ignoring that hard truths.
    How can anyone believe that things are ok when so many are not getting any work and this is barely even mentioned on these boards and ought to be highlighted.
    People who are giving up full time teaching posts for secondary supply should be aware that even if it has not already, the Rose Tinted Glasses that you are wearing regarding the amount of work available in supply are definately doing to come off in due course.
    This is the peak time, I have only had 2 days since after Christmas, last year and previous years I was flooded with work at this stage so it cannot be just me as a previous respondent hurtfully stated as I got loads of work in previous years. It is a sign of the times that supply is finished
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2016
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  18. splinters

    splinters Established commenter

    I am not going to ask you to stop Kenmuir but please take a balanced view of the situation. I have only had 3 days off (by choice I should add) since the 1st of September. If I am willing to provide general cover there is almost daily work for me and £120 to travel 3 miles to a local school where I may only have 3 or 4 lessons is better than sitting at home in my opinion. Longer term work seems to be there as well as one and two terms maternity cover. I am in no way a shortage subject and I have only taught my specialist subject for one term. I am currently using my ICT, graphics and design skills with my experience of film and games to teach Media Studies for the rest of the term. If you are flexible and adaptable there is work to be had. Even if that is not the case for you, its not cause to write 'supply' off as dead in general.
     
  19. is2

    is2 Occasional commenter

    I have to disagree here.
    I and most supply teachers I know experienced a dearth of work in supply this year.
    Well done Splinters, but you are very much in the minority.
    Well done for providing balance, but balance is utilised when something is going well in some cases. On the whole for supply teachers it is not.
     
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  20. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    Supply by its nature is not predictable.

    It's just the way it is:

     
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