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Change of union?

Discussion in 'Pay and conditions' started by 1oldbones, Nov 12, 2011.

  1. Is anyone else leaving ATL at the end of the year in protest at its approach to the pensions issue? Given that only about 30% of those entitled to vote for strikes actually voted in favour, there must be quite few who feel that the union's present stance does not accord with their views.
     
  2. Is anyone else leaving ATL at the end of the year in protest at its approach to the pensions issue? Given that only about 30% of those entitled to vote for strikes actually voted in favour, there must be quite few who feel that the union's present stance does not accord with their views.
     
  3. strawbs

    strawbs Established commenter

  4. becktonboy

    becktonboy New commenter

    you have to follow the views of those who expressed one .....
    if you feel this does not represent the majority feeling you have to campaign to get the rest to express theirs - if it had been different they would surely have made that apparent?
     
  5. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    If you can't be bothered to vote, then your views won't be taken into account. I admit that there may be a few who didn't receive ballot papers, but otherwise, everybody who cares should have voted.
     
  6. That'll be me. Leaving in Feb, I think when my membership runs out. Have paid for year, and they won't refund.
     
  7. Compassman

    Compassman Star commenter

    I don't think you'll be missed...........
     
  8. If you voted against then presumably you are unhappy to go on strike. If you continue to feel unhappy about going on strike - either you accept the majority decision, even though it didn't accord with yours, and go on strike anyway, or you leave the union.
    You might also feel that as the government has now made some concessions the position is not what it was in June, and striking is no longer "a last resort". I can see that someone who didn't express an opinion in June might now feel more strongly that they don't want to strike, given the concessions that have been made, and would vote against if balloted again. The problem is there have been negotiations and the position has changed.

    Of course, if you leave, you are then faced with the question of what union to join instead - in today's climate I think it's essential to be in one.
     
  9. Yes, I voted against. Yes, I'm annoyed they did not ballot again for the 30th separately. And to be frank, I am considering not joining any union when my subs are up, although I have looked at Voice and may go with them. But whichever I belong to or not, I am still hamstrung by all of the militant unions, because if my school shuts because of them I am off work, albeit paid. (But I will not accept the majority decision of the unions over this pensions issue, or anything else they are whinging on about at the moment!)
     
  10. They don't even know I'm there. But just happily take my £180 each year.
     
  11. YesMrBronson

    YesMrBronson New commenter

    Nobody forced you to join a union.*

    *You may say you had to join for legal protection but then, that's just the point isn't it? Without the unions there would be precious little legal protection but that is not the fault of the teaching unions. They're not standing in the way of an alternative.
     
  12. If I could get professional legal cover, for a reasonable price from somewhere, I would take it, Mr B. I just hate the way the unions are all linked to socialist/Labour umbrella organisations. As a Tory supporter, who tries to take an interest in politics and what the government is doing, indeed assisted in voting them in and believes in what they are doing, it is incredibly frustrating. My union supporting colleagues can shout as loudly as they like, with their propaganda all over the staff room tables, and their meetings. Where is the balance in what is probably most of our schools? There is none.
     
  13. oh please, let's all just do away with unions and then we can all just tug our forelocks to governments and employers, like in victorian times! ahhh the good olde days???? NOT
     

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