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CfE and the proposed new exams

Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by Besomcat, Jun 11, 2011.

  1. It looks like parents are beginning to realise that there is something to be concerned about with the lack of information / changes to the exam system under CfE. This mumsnet thread made interesting reading:

  2. Dominie

    Dominie New commenter

    A pal was telling me of a conversation with a parent of a child at his school: "My son's not very academic so I think CfE - no grades and stuff - is great. He's enjoying all this group work, making posters etc. My older son was more academic so I'm glad he's through the school now."

    Not a word of a lie!

    And I agree re parents so let's hope Mumsnet get a head of steam up north of the border.
  3. That is frightening! Have we really become such a selfish bunch that the bigger picture is lost and the only concern is our own children? Sheeesh!

    Think I might agitate on the mumsnet thread [​IMG]

  4. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    I'm afraid that I've heard many of my colleagues saying exactly the same.
  5. Dominie

    Dominie New commenter

    You might want to posts a link to this LTS document ...


    This makes it (almost) crystal clear that schools / departments can start kids off on National courses BEFORE the end of S3.

    "while S1-S3 will be designed to provide a broad general education, there will be scope for increasing depth and
    specialisation in particular subjects through choices made during that time. Although formal
    qualifications will not begin before S4, learning which takes place in the broad general education
    can and should contribute to the learning for qualifications. National curriculum levels attained will
    be recorded within the S3 profile"
  6. I think anyone who expects the qualifications to look like this is in for a shock. National 4 might very well consist of some internally assessed project but it's equivalent to a pass at General which wasn't exactly a rigorous academic standard anyway - we all knew a 3 was really the "pass" mark at SG even it it was never officially acknowledged. I doubt the externally assessed qualifications will be quite so easy.
  7. We do that anyway - SG is a two year course and as far as I can see the new qualifications are exactly the same.
  8. Dominie

    Dominie New commenter

    Errr no. They will be one year courses exactly like current NQs. Hence only 5 in a single session. If you want to do more than you need to start studying them earlier.
  9. Hmm, you might want to have a chat with the SQA who, as suggested in your link, don't see why pupils shouldn't start building evidence for Nat 4 & 5 in S3, even though they shouldn't be presented for them until S4. Whether that evidence is from "chosen" subjects or from the "broad general education" might be up for discussion, I suppose.
  10. DocF

    DocF New commenter

    How about this?

    5 x 6 periods per week in the senior phase (S4-S6)
    But ... if N4 is started in S3 for 4 periods per week, then N5 could be achieved over 2 years with 4 periods in S3 and 3 periods in S4. That's about the same time as our current SG courses.

    i.e. the 5 x 6 period blocks could become a mixture of 6 period and 3 period blocks.
    That way, students are not restricted to 5 subjects in S4.
    6 periods for those who need it or have not chosen your subject in S3 and 3 for those who have the S3 experience behind them.

    Thoughts? ...
  11. Dominie, thanks for that link - I hadn't seen that document. Interesting reading. Not sure if I am brave enough to invade mumsnet, but I'm watching that thread with interest.

    DocF - that sounds like a do-able idea but a timetabling headache!

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