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Catalonia declares independence! Moment in History! where are you?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by red_observer, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. cariadwch

    cariadwch Established commenter

    The tank protestor disappeared into a forced labour camp I think.
  2. emilystrange

    emilystrange Star commenter

    my friend in Spain is tweeting stuff...
    students stopped from going into lectures by mobs. niece's school has security making gangways into the school for the kids. people already stockpiling food.
  3. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Or maybe you didn't need the last 7 words there.
  4. emilystrange

    emilystrange Star commenter

    mobs smashing windows at local radio station
  5. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Pro, Anti or a mixture?
  6. emilystrange

    emilystrange Star commenter

    i don't know, i'm just relaying some tweets. i don't think anyone wants to go ask!
  7. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Is your friend not inviting you for Hallow'e'en? You could dress as an inquisitor and report live.
  8. lunarita

    lunarita Established commenter

    Not yet seeing this on national tv news but tweets from publico.es suggest it's people carrying spanish flags attacking catalunya radio.
  9. emilystrange

    emilystrange Star commenter

    sadly, rac, i have lessons to do. otherwise...
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  10. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Some reasons why Catalan find independence attractive and why Spain can't let them?

    From the BBC.

    Catalonia in numbers

    • 16% of Spain's population live in Catalonia, and it produces:

    • 25.6% of Spain's exports

    • 19% of Spain's GDP

    • 20.7% of foreign investment
    Ministry of Economy, Industry and Competitiveness, Eurostat, Bank of Spain
  11. calamansi

    calamansi Lead commenter

    Hopefully, when tempers have cooled and common sense begins to take over, it'll be questions like Red's that will start to pave the way to some sort of accord.
  12. calamansi

    calamansi Lead commenter

    Pardner has told me that that wasn't a significant consideration but you never know.
  13. calamansi

    calamansi Lead commenter

    Off to Catalonia on the 9th November for al long weekend with a friend who lives in the Garraf. Good company, food, wine, walks in the hills with the dogs and a trip into Sitges for sardines and chips on the prom.

    I love Catalonia and hate to see what's going on.
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  14. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

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  15. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    I think the sardines will still swim and they will still cook chips when they are independent. They will of course be better off not having to prop up the rest of Spain.
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  16. calamansi

    calamansi Lead commenter

    Though I do prefer atlantic sardines, of course.

    We've spent the evening researching the history of the Iberian peninsula. Confusing, fascinating and essential reading in the light of recent events.
  17. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Indeed, but Madrid was never going to sanction that. Unlike the UK view on Scotland - that the Scottish people should decide their own future - the Spanish position is that the future of Catalonia is not up to the people who live there. If there is to be a referendum that is legal in their eyes, it will be on the basis that the whole of Spain decides the future of the Catalan people.
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2017
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  18. colacao17

    colacao17 New commenter

    Yes, it is fascinating. However I've learned over recent weeks that if the subject comes up, some spaniards simply insist that "Catalonia has never been an independent country" and that "the referendum was illegal".

    There are, of course, others who are saddened and concerned by what is gping on and who, while they might not agree with Puigdemont and his referendum, were horrified and upset by the scences of police violence on voting day. but also are others who insist that all of those images of baton weilding policemen were fakes. A very divided society right now.
  19. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    That's right: 30 years is well over 5 years (the latter mentioned because it would be significant had he not already got UK citizenship).
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  20. colacao17

    colacao17 New commenter

    Apologies. By the time this got through moderation it was too late to edit and correct the typos.


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