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Catalonia declares independence! Moment in History! where are you?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by red_observer, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    Did I specify what type of bears Jude?:D
  2. Brunel

    Brunel Established commenter

    Although my earlier point wasn't serious it got me thinking. I don't know much about Spanish politics but I do know something about Spanish football and how mad-keen many (most?) Catalans are about football and about FC Barcelona in particular. If La Liga kicked them out, or threatened to, it would be a big deal.
    (Fortunately for the SNP, Scotland has its own leagues.)
    And, in general, it does show the flexibility of successive British governments on the subject of regional autonomy in a favourable light.
  3. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Oh, dear.

    Radio 4 informs me that this is the biggest event in Spain since the attempted coup in 1981. Which I had completely forgotten. If it even registered at the time. I'm not sure that it did. :(

    So I suspect that independence for Catalunya will go the same way. Ask me in 2027 and I don't suppose I'll remember today either.
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  4. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    So the parliament has just voted... but it hasn't actually gone UDI?

    So still an ongoing limbo really...
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  5. rachel_g41

    rachel_g41 Occasional commenter

    One catalan town, Vall d'Aran, has announced it will discuss on Monday its independence from Catalunya.
  6. Jesmond12

    Jesmond12 Star commenter

    Planting Bulbs in the garden in this glorious sunshine
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  7. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter

    I wonder if Spain would be less keen to keep Catalunya if it was one of the poorest regions in Spain? If Extremadura wanted independence, for example.

    The declaration today doesn't feel like much of milestone event, more part of long process, and simply makes me wonder what response will come from Madrid. Maybe it's very exciting if you are there though.
  8. burajda

    burajda Lead commenter

    Why would we do that when we don't say Italia or Deutschland or Espana, or even Cumry, but we manage to name France the same way as the natives do although none of us pronounce it 'Fronce' like the French do. But I reckon no French name us as Yngland, I think they are happier with Onglaterre as their neighbour the other side of The Manche. How do you pronounce Catalunya in Catalan?
  9. burajda

    burajda Lead commenter

    I think the Spanish need a publicity campaign to win over the undecided, I'd suggest 'Better Together', why they didnt think of it earlier rather than sending in the police, seems to be part of the problem.
  10. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    Cymru!!!! :( :(;):):)
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  11. burajda

    burajda Lead commenter

    He cant stand the EU, but is a Spanish national with the right to live in Britain and move freely between his house in The UK and his flat in Spain. I dont know his circumstances but presumably he came here 30 years ago because the Spanish economy was backwards and he came here to make something of himself. I guess if I was him Id hate the EU too, some Leavers probably wish he never came here in the first place and hope he bugers off permanently to free Catalonia as soon as possible.
  12. burajda

    burajda Lead commenter

    Most Welsh people call it 'Wales'. Pronounced Cumry though isnt it or is it Kimroo?
  13. elledriver

    elledriver Lead commenter

    Why do we now say Beijing, Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata, etc ?Why some cities and not countries?
    (We should also go with Caerdydd, Casnewydd and Abrertawe.
  14. colacao17

    colacao17 New commenter

    At the time of the referendum there were lots of flags in the streets here (Madrid), in windows and on balconies, as though it were a World Cup final week. Oct 12th was a national fiesta so that was a kind of excuse/reason for it but it was unusual and to this outsider it seemed as much an anti-catalan display as a pro-spain one. There are still lots of flags around but far fewer than a week or two ago. Maybe it'll increase again now.
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  15. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    I don't expect it!
  16. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    pronounced Come....Ree...I would say!
  17. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

    Edit: Weird - that wasn't the quote I quoted!
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  18. burajda

    burajda Lead commenter

    Is that Cat a loon ia or Cat a lun ia?

    I dont think the people who live in Casnewydd will ever call it Casnewydd. Has anybody spoken Welsh in Newport in the last 500 years? Wasnt it in England before the 1970s?
  19. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Meanwhile in Madrid....

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  20. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    I see Mrs May has announced that the UK will not be recognising Catalan independence (she presumably wants to keep Madrid on side in the hope that they don't annex Gibraltar or put a spoke in Brexit).
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