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Carrier bag charge: failing to pay 5p levy 'no different from stealing food', says minister

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Morninglover, Oct 3, 2015.

  1. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

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  2. BobbyPhilips

    BobbyPhilips Established commenter

    There is no VAT included in the 5p bag charge,
     
  3. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter


    There is. Check your facts...

    Hint: just read the article & comments below!
     
  4. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Surely a few free carrier bags is a small payment from the supermarket for the efforts self scanners make to reduce supermarket staffing levels.
     
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  5. yfel_endwerce

    yfel_endwerce Established commenter

    I now carry my own bag - when I remember and our local shop still only charges 4p for a bag if I don't.

    Still talking to myself
     
  6. BobbyPhilips

    BobbyPhilips Established commenter

    Fair play. The charge is 5p inclusive of VAT if registered and 5p exclusive of VAT if not
     
  7. BobbyPhilips

    BobbyPhilips Established commenter

    The 5p is an environment tax on the consumer. The Scots have been doing it for a while. Best buy a shopping bag.
     
  8. scienceteachasghost

    scienceteachasghost Lead commenter

    TBH the 5p charge is long overdue and may force shoppers (including myself) to use a 'bag for life' and stop destroying the oceans and sea creatures with this unnatural substance.

    Downside is will the 5p go into cleaning polluted seas? More like subsidising Cameron's request for pig meat.............
     
  9. PlymouthMaid

    PlymouthMaid Occasional commenter

    Will our own bags upset the self scanning 'voice' as I expect my hessian ones weigh more than their plastic ones. Will we be harangued about those unexpected items in bagging area? I kind of hope they casue chaos then the supermarkets might let us have a few freebies.
     
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  10. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    We absolutely should be shopping with bags made of natural, sustainable materials.
    Don't pay up. Just get yourself some cloth bags. Nothing to do with the short-term microeconomics for the shopper. Everything to do with responsible citizenship.
     
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  11. PlymouthMaid

    PlymouthMaid Occasional commenter

    Cloth types are definitely best - those bags for life are still plastic and don't last all that long anyway.
     
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  12. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    But clearly very different from defrauding the tax-payer with dodgy expense claims.
     
  13. bombaysapphire

    bombaysapphire Star commenter

    I ended up with bags for life of all different shapes and sizes because I bought them all at different times. I have now invested in a set of four "trolley bags" designed to fit perfectly. I always do scan as you shop - much less frustrating than the self service checkouts.
     
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  14. BobbyPhilips

    BobbyPhilips Established commenter

    Those that committed fraud went to jail; unlikley for stealing a carrier bag.
     
  15. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    I'm just back from Tesco, where they were giving everyone who came in a free 'Bag for life' ahead of the rule change on Monday.
     
  16. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    It's interesting to note that plastic carrier bags never existed 40 years ago. People always took their own bags with them when they went shopping. Some grocery shops and the like would sell durable carrier bags made from Kraft paper with string handles for around a shilling.

    Why shops chose to give carrier bags away is an interesting question. My guess is that it was initially inspired by someone in marketing as a means of advertising the shops.

    I get how it's a simple matter to change the plastic bag habit with supermarket shopping, but what are the clothes shops going to do? Return to paper bags? To be honest I can't remember what they offered when I was young.
     
  17. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Same at the Co op.
     
  18. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    No. You put your bag on the scale at the start and it zeros it.
    Supermarkets have to charge you. They could give you other items as a freebie but not a plastic carrier bag. A few have removed bags from self serve checkouts unless you ask for them. Others trust you to tell the checkout how many you have used.
     
  19. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Personally, I think environmentalists should pay extra tax so those who will be made redundant from the plastic bag industry don't feel guilty about claiming unemployment benefits.
     
  20. smoothnewt

    smoothnewt Star commenter

    About time too, I say. My supermarket "bags for life" have been going strong since the Year 2000, and I always have a couple of expandable bags in my handbag for unexpected purchases.

    I actually feel really bad on the odd occasion I find myself going home from the shops with a plastic bag they have given me - although I still expect / accept them from clothes shops. I'd quite like this situation to change, too.

    It's all about mind-set.
     

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