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Career prospects for part-time supply teaching?

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by Tekko, Nov 12, 2010.

  1. Hi
    Once qualified, how easy/difficult would it be for me to work regularly for 2-3 days a week as a supply teacher in London (my subject is Secondary RE).
  2. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    London may be better ,but to expect regular supply work in any subject is pretty hopeless at the minute, let alone regular work per week!
  3. rouseau22

    rouseau22 New commenter

    Im doing this now. Before Summer it was ok. But since then, nothing.
  4. Absolutely no guarantees whatsoever...believe me?
  5. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    One subject only? Forget it. Be prepared to teach anything and everything. I was averaging three days a week before the summer holiday, Now it's about half that, partly due to seasonal factors, but also due to a drop in daily supply work. I have five specialist subjects and a lot of years' teaching under my belt. The only specialist subject I routinely get called in to cover is ICT. That said, I sometimes get paid to scale to teach outside my specialisms, but only at schools who know me already, and not very often.

    Your main advantage as a NQT will be cost, in that you'll cost the schools less than an old git like me.
  6. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Agree you'll need to be prepared to teach anything and everything. My original qualifiacation was MFL but I've had long term bookings doing, Maths, DT, Art in addition to English, which is a natural progression from languages at least. Day to day I cover everything from ICT to music, games etc. and stillnot much work, though I'm currently doing Art & Maths at aschool where I'm known, but of unknown length.
  7. I've had odd days in the past where I've started with music, then gone to science, then art, then PE. My specialisms?? History and ICT!!! Having said that, there's no supply work around at the moment - I'd teach eskimos how to build igloos if they asked me!!!
  8. Well there are at least 2 of us out there then [​IMG]
  9. Cost? Most if not all agencies will only pay a flat daily rate for supply teaching so MPS is totally out the window!

  10. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Understood. But schools and agencies who still pay to scale will pay considerably less for a NQT.
  11. Thanks for all your replies -- not exactly rosy then :-(
  12. Does anyone have any ideas as to how the cuts are going to affect supply work?
  13. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Short term I imagine it will make Heads tighter with spending and more prone to use support staff instead of supply teachers, or go for agencies offering flat rate or CS rates rather than paying to scale.

    Medium term you may see more teachers signing up for supply as a result of redundancies or fewer job opportunities, and possibly more cover supervisors signing up with agencies as Heads cut support staff if budgets are tight.

    Longer term you may see some smaller supply agencies go to the wall through lack of business, and maybe an increase in teaching staff absence as cuts-related stress takes its toll or they bail out and seek other lines of employment. You might also see more experienced supply teachers giving up on it because their income's dropping too low.

    Net result? Lower pay all round, fewer opportunities for supply work, fewer experienced teachers working supply, more students being taught for longer by unqualified staff, more qualified teachers moving into different fields of employment. In short, public sector recession.

    The solution? Change your mindset - you're a private sector worker in a competitive market. Market yourself and make sure you're a bloody good supply teacher who gives added value so you get repeat business at a decent rate of pay.
  14. Pennyforyourthoughts

    Pennyforyourthoughts Occasional commenter

    Marketing yourself.... this used to work extremely well about 6 years ago but has become increasingly difficult even with the schools who I would normally get direct work from. What with the costs, responsibilities and consequences for CRB checks, introduction of Cover Supervisors, HLTAs and other support staff to call upon for cover (all levels of cover even teaching) along with directives from Government on PT and Casual workers and the withdraw of LEA supply pools - who used to carry out the CRBs on our behalf, and with independent supply teachers not being able to apply for their own CRB the opportunities for direct work is diminishing.
    The latest from schools on working direct is.... we use our part time teachers to bulk up their weekly work as they are already CRB checked, we have enough cover supervisors, we use our technicians for cover where equipment use can continue.
    To rely on just bookable days when schools are supposed to bring supply is resulting in less and less work as agencies, (and quite rightly so perhaps) is spreading the work around so we all get at least something.
    Answer to all this.... if you can move area, get a full time post, they are out there. If you are not able to move area then find other things to do alongside supply ... or it might be a complete career change that you have to do.....
    What might have been a career option 8 years ago is not longer a viable option so think twice about giving up any contracted work for supply its not there...........
    Try .............
    One to One teaching, out of school teaching, private tutoring, evening/day classes to boost your income.
    Good luck everyone.......... I have a cold so, .............so will the teachers soon ???

  15. I have signed up with 11 agencies in London: i am searching for science and/or general supply, as well as Heath and Social Care and 1-2-1 tuition. So far, nothing at all.
  16. With most, NO every secondary school employing at least 4 cover supervisors and
    in-house permanent contracted teachers to do <u>all </u>the cover plus the totally unacceptable and unscrupulous use of unqualified staff as cover "teachers" what hope is there for the qualified, registered and experienced secondary specialist supply teacher UNLESS..????????
    Even supply teacher agencies are now making their call centre "consultants" redundant!
    Be optimistic, certainly but where is the employment JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS IN TERMS OF RECRUITMENT POLICIES????

  17. Cuts do not apply to schools at this point. However they are now talking about direct funding to schools which may make things better as local authorities will not be able to slice off bits of education funding for other purposes.
    Having said that there are not too many Heads out there with a business brain in my opinion.
  18. I have been teaching on supply for 15 years both sondary and primary, direct and agency and never had a problem untill now! I have had six days work ince last SEPT.
    No agency work at all.
    I would like to hear how others are fairing ???
  19. Since supply teaching is pretty much finished and any tom dick and harry, or newly qualified teachers are getting jobs on sweatshop TA wages , I propose we just close this forum down and merge it with the TA/CS forums.
  20. I've been doing supply in early years and KS1 for a long time- since 2001and my story is just the same as yours.Gave up full time originally to support my children growing up . Used to get at least a couple of days a week average and now it's just occasional days .Nothing at all from September to middle November and about 4 days since Christmas. I'm also considering TA work but wonder if I would even get that as schools might consider you are overqualified and a threat to the teacher. A friend of mine is in exactly the same situation.

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