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Cancelling Steven Pinker

Discussion in 'Personal' started by DrLinus, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. DrLinus

    DrLinus Lead commenter

    The core of the complaint from the "linguistics community" in their petition to the Linguistic Society of America are statistical tweets.
    Also favourably disposed to the writing of a journalist who wrote an article about someone who wrote a memo about statistics.
    I do not think Pinker should be cancelled.

    If you do not know Steven Pinker then you can read about him here.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker
    If you would like to see the complaint petition and those troublesome tweets then you can go here.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/17ZqWl5grm_F5Kn_0OarY9Q2jlOnk200PvhM5e3isPvY/preview?pru=AAABc0ng3L8*LYowj0vaB49vjEb6yGzB8w

    Here Pinker chats to Joe Rogan.



    I wonder for whom the Cancellers will come next.
     
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  2. ACOYEAR8

    ACOYEAR8 Star commenter

    Do not ask for whom, they come for thee.......
    All those damn linguists.
     
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  3. Wanda_the_Wonder

    Wanda_the_Wonder Occasional commenter

    'Cancelled'? Sounds North Korean.

    Steven Pinker has been associated with the New Atheists. I kinda liked the New Atheists despite being an active Roman Catholic.
     
  4. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Star commenter

    Yes it’s a dismal and asinine statement with some fake signatures and the rest from academic non-entities with rubbish like

    “tendency to move in the proximity"

    "his public support for David Brooks"

    hallucinatory “dog whistles”.

    A bunch of butt- hurt, ideologicall possessed third-rate academics screaming at a an academic giant.
     
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  5. ACOYEAR8

    ACOYEAR8 Star commenter

    Orwell wrote these words for a character,

    "“If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
     
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  6. George_Randle

    George_Randle Established commenter

    Graham Greene thought that Hell might be empty because of the infinite mercy of God, so perhaps the New Atheists might be tucked away in a mezzanine in Heaven, safely out of the way of Aquinas. You could bring them in a tea trolley every couple of millennia.
     
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  7. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Those members of the Priesthood following the Latin Rite that I have come across would not like the term Roman Catholic applied to them, over here it makes Latin Rite Catholics jibe.
     
  8. George_Randle

    George_Randle Established commenter

    2 + 2 = cancelled, Winston.
     
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  9. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Indeed. It really does seem that the anti-sex league is with us.
     
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  10. ACOYEAR8

    ACOYEAR8 Star commenter

    "Has it ever occurred to you, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?”
     
  11. Katzenjammer

    Katzenjammer Occasional commenter

    And he was also scornful of "the smelly little orthodoxies which are contending for our souls", among which must be numbered what the late Bernard Levin used to call the SIF community - the Single Issue Fanatics.
     
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  12. DrLinus

    DrLinus Lead commenter

    One of Noam Chomsky's reasons for refusing to sign this petition, I understand.
    Having previously defended others' right to speak views with which he disagrees he is not picking favourites.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faurisson_affair#Petition_signed_by_Chomsky

    Given what happened to Faurisson Chomsky has reason to be concerned for Pinker.
     
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  13. George_Randle

    George_Randle Established commenter

    There's a similar case in the UK, involving lecturer Mike McCullough.

    https://thecritic.co.uk/inside-the-academic-war-on-free-speech/

    Lazy or jealous academics are using vague criticism of the scientist’s tone or style to avoid tackling the substance. This undermines the scientific posture of scepticism, of interrogating the logic and evidence of other people’s work in order to hold accountable, encourage rigour, and revise and refine. Criticising a scientist’s style is a cheap shot.
     
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  14. DrLinus

    DrLinus Lead commenter

    Move over Elon Musk.
    The McCullough Drive will be a marvelous thing.
    i wonder which other great figures from history would have been cancelled by today's statue-topplers.
    It might be that even now cancel culture is abbreviating scientific progress and human flourishing in huge ways.
     
  15. George_Randle

    George_Randle Established commenter

    Very recent interview with Pinker here:

     

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