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Can you get a job over 50?

Discussion in 'Education news' started by dunnocks, May 29, 2018.

  1. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    Sorry to hear that Ezzie and I hope you find another contract soon. 50s are such a vibrate age, I really am at my best intellectually and my ability to explain complex things, in simplified ways, has increased. As much as I loved my 25 year old self, I can't compare the brain I have now to the one I had then. Also the amount of skills you can amass with age.

    If only people could realise that with the years and years, we get better and better.:confused:
     
  2. alisonhank

    alisonhank New commenter

    I am beginning to see this, and I send you all my kindest thoughts and best wishes. XX
     
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  3. alisonhank

    alisonhank New commenter

    And our children have left the nest and we have time and patience. XXXX
     
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  4. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    If you want the boring stats, 335,000 teachers with QTS of working age OUT of the classroom and of them 1,000,000 NQTs who have still to complete their Induction year and the government has carted over 600 overseas Maths, MFL and Science teachers this year and last year to deal with the mythical teacher shortage.:confused:
     
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  5. alisonhank

    alisonhank New commenter

    I like to be able to use evidence, where did you get this information from. It is horrific. I agree with you about the mythical teacher shortage.
     
  6. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    This figures have been growing for year. Re the 100,000 NQT, it's referenced here

    https://www.teachers.org.uk/edufacts/teacher-recruitment-and-retention

    the 600 overseas teachers
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educati...0-foreign-teachers-one-biggest-ever-overseas/

    Re the 335,000 qualified teachers out of the workforce

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/schools-can-get-5k-for-getting-returner-teachers-back-into-classrooms/

    I wish I was making it up, but this is why I've given on searching for a classroom teaching post.

    Too many brilliant teachers out there and just not enough vacancies.

    BTW the reference to schools getting £5K to take on the returners was a dismal fail A LOT of schools didn't want to, sorry, couldn't mange to recruit them and attempts have failed year in year out to get the returners back in to schools. The majority of returners BTW are between 45-65 year old.:rolleyes:

    A lady in my local LEA recruitment told me that the DWP did a special presentation on taking on over 50s teachers and this was held in all the boroughs and the LEA HRs sent the details on to all the local schools. Has anybody heard anything about that?

    Remember shortage of teachers really means shortage of teacher under 35 years old. Cos once your over 50, you're not considered a teachers anymore.;)
     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2018
  7. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    This week my school employed a maths teacher aged nearly 60, grandmother.
     
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  8. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    This will be the way a lot schools will have go if they want a qualified and experienced teacher as the majority of teachers looking for jobs these days are between 45-65 years old.
     
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  9. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    Would be interesting to know in what capacity i.e. general class teacher, A level specialist only, salary scale etc. But of course that is all private and confidential. A lot of older teachers complain that they are only offered work at a rate that is far lower than they are worth.
     
  10. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    I felt a failure in not being able to get back into teaching until I saw the writing on the wall.:(

    @alisonhank: thank you
     
  11. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    We get fed of these oft-peddled myths of shortages of staff in education and health care.

    Education/hospitals: "If only we could find more doctors/nurses/teachers."

    Wager applicant: "I'm a doctor/nurse/teacher looking for work. Is there a job for me?"

    Education/hospitals: "Ah.......well.....er......ahem....you see......it is not as simple as that."
     
  12. David Getling

    David Getling Lead commenter

    If this is true then it's akin to the my grandfather smoked forty a day and lived to be 100.
     
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  13. slick

    slick New commenter

    I am not certain about the number of applicants out there of any age. We are in the Midlands, 'good' school with good reputation and we advertised for a music, geography and maths teacher and got ZERO applicants. Not one, aged 25 or 55.... so where are all these teachers that cannot get jobs, as we would welcome their application.
     
  14. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    No doubt, Music and Geography teachers in the Midlands looking for jobs will be able to see this and will be PMing you their CVs very soon. So hold on tight.
     
  15. slick

    slick New commenter

    The music situation has now been resolved... we had interviews for Drama teacher and we have amended the curriculum to teach more drama and less music.... to ensure we had a teacher in post for September. Geography still remains a gap, and sourcing supply agencies, local universities...…
     
  16. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    Give a few days, the Midland based Geography teachers will be PMing you soon. May be some that relocated to London, wishing to get a job nearer their parents' homes.
     
  17. slick

    slick New commenter

    My experience is that there are NO teachers really out there to recruit..... we are a very stable staff and few tend to leave... but when we are looking to recruit, we really struggle.
     
  18. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    Interesting that you have had no problems in finding science teachers. Do you know for certain that your school has had no applicants, or is this what your SMT tells you?
     
  19. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    We currently have a Science vacancy - we advertised and got no applicants.

    We trawled the agencies and had 4 people interested - invited them all for interview last week.

    3 didn't show up - the 1 that did was completely unsuitable.

    So we keep looking.
     
  20. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    @slick is a verifiable TES legend. He pulled the SAME stunt in November 2017 when he couldn't find a PE teacher :rolleyes:

    https://community.tes.com/threads/shortage-of-applicants-for-jobs.767888/

    Slick by name; slick by nature:cool:
     
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