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Can I do anything about this?

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by Tanyashi, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. Tanyashi

    Tanyashi New commenter

    Can anyone advise me please as I feel like I'm going bonkers with this? Its a long story but I will condense it right down. Here goes..I have worked on supply for a few years, secondary science, physics specialism, always on long term jobs. Every school I go to are more than happy with my commitment & hard work. I just started my 2nd year at the school I am at now. They have said many times that I go 'above & beyond' what I need to do. A job vacancy came up in March this year which I was encourages to apply for so I did. There was 1 other applicant, who failed to turn up.I did my lesson which was not observed from the start, about 20 minutes in. The science trained observer thought it was good, the head did not like it. I was then asked if I minded postponing my interview till he could make it - I said OK as I'm not pushy or assertive.There was never any mention of my interview again. A few weeks later I had a text from my previous HOD asking me to go back there and teach A level physics, subject to an interview & lesson obs of course so I said Yes as I was feeling quite rubbish at that point! The eve before the interview I was pulled out of a dept meeting by an assistant head who offered me a 1 yr contract. I was thrilled as I really wanted to stay at the school. So I withdrew from the other interview. About 10 days later I was informed we can't give you a direct contract actually as its cheaper to remain with the agency. I felt a bit messed about but went along with it. At least I'd got another years work, even if no holiday pay or true job security for that year. Then in September this year another supply started in our dept and, not to put her down as I have no gripe with her, she is not some amazing teacher, in other words no better than myself. I then heard that after just 8 weeks she has been given a permanent contract with no need to apply for a job or do lesson obs etc. They don't know what they are getting at this point. The school will have had to pay the agency finder's fee and she is on Upper pay scale so is not cheap and they did not do that for me. I'm still being complimented that I go above and beyond by the way! I queried with the assistant head why they could not have employed me in the same way, and she said they can't do that. I'm confused. Now there are 2 jobs going in my dept, people are saying why should I have to apply? I was adamant that I wouldn't be applying. However I was told by the head that they want me to apply. I have said that I will, but cannot approach my previous HOD who I turned down the chance of a permanent job as it would be too much of an embarrassment to explain everything. They had 2 references for me from the very same people I would be asking this time, just a few months ago, but they are insisting I need to ask for references again. What I don't get is that if you can bend rules for one person who hasn't shown any commitment yet, why not for me? Would you just cut your losses and go to a different school? I don't know what to do as I feel I've got no dignity left because they've made me feel like I'm not good enough.
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  2. Grandsire

    Grandsire Star commenter

    No, you’re not going bonkers. The fact you’re posting on here tells me you know what you need to do. This school is a shambles - sounds like they couldn’t organise the proverbial. Why would you want to work for these numpties? Would you really trust them to be able to do a decent job of performance management and advance your career? I think you already know the answer.

    Look, you’re a teacher of a shortage subject. Go and find somewhere which will rightly bend over backwards to get hold of you and treat you nicely so that they can keep you. Go with your gut instinct, and don’t look back.
  3. tenpast7

    tenpast7 Occasional commenter

    My advice is to "dig deep" and find your inner confidence. I would also look for another place to work where things are less confusing.
    Use your time there as experience, to springboard yourself into a better job later on.
  4. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    So, is your contract until September? If so, that gives you plenty of time to refelct on what you really want.
    Your current school obviously have some liking for you, but insufficient for you to get the benefits of a proper contract. In theory as a teacher of a shortage subject, you should be able to pick and choose. Sadly, the world is not that straightforward, but I would start sniffing about, having polished the CV. Next time an SLT minion comes and grabs you, you either need time to think (until after the interview) or a written contract.
  5. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Good advice above. They had the chance (more than once) to appoint you and didn't, so cut your losses and move on.
  6. Tanyashi

    Tanyashi New commenter

    Thanks so much for the reply. I do know really, I am just not big on self esteem and they certainly have made that worse. The closing date to apply for this job now is Friday 7th and I've asked if they can just use the reference from a few months ago from my previous HOD as it won't say anything different! I will not embarrass myself to ask him for another when I turned down his perfectly good contracted job (fool!!) on the strength of being offered a contract at this school that they then went back on. I am on supply there till July so if something better comes up I will go before then
  7. yodaami2

    yodaami2 Lead commenter

    God, Physics teachers are like gold dust round here! I'd walk now if I were you.
  8. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I don't know why you're so reluctant to ask the former HoD for a reference. Just apologise.

    "I feel terrible about pulling out of that interview at the last minute. Still feeling guilty about it. But this school is just so convenient and they made me a promise! Long story but would you mind terribly just retrieving the last reference and chucking it back at them just one more time if they request a reference? So sorry to ask."

    There's no harm in asking. There really isn't. But don't stay at this place if they let you down again. And tell them! "I like it here but you've messed me about and this is getting close to be the final straw. You must appoint the right person for this job but I am questioning why I am persevering as I am getting mixed messages. You kinda like me but not enough! That's how it feels. And it's not a pleasant feeling. Surely you must see how demotivating it is?"
  9. scott1980

    scott1980 Occasional commenter

    I had a similar situation. Encouraged to apply for a job at a school I was on a maternity contract. Didn't get the job, went and got a better one. Afterwards they said they were planning on me for another year group (would have been nice for them to communicate this). End of day - their loss, not yours. You can move on to better things.
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  10. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Yes. Ring a few schools up and see what they can offer you. I'm sure they will be falling over themselves to take you on.

    The place you are at sounds horrendous.

    Good luck.
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  11. Shedman

    Shedman Star commenter

    You've been well and truly shafted! Get in contact with your previous HOD and explain the shabby trick they played on you and say that if there was another opportunity at the school, you'd jump at the chance. As for your current school, they've got you dangling on a sting and are just messing you about, perhaps because they see you as more compliant that some of the others they've given permanent jobs to. They're probably thinking why should they pay to have you on the staff when they get you cheaper through an agency. You are being exploited. Get yourself a proper permanent job and then you can tell these shysters to shove their job up their ar *e.
  12. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    There are no Physics teachers so get applying.
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  13. Tanyashi

    Tanyashi New commenter

    Thanks for this. You've made me laugh actually. I'm glad I am not just being 'Woe is me, poor me.' which I dont tend to do anyway. Yes I have spoke to my previous HOD who said he wished I was still there - that gives me a big boost.
  14. Flanks

    Flanks Senior commenter

    The thing that amazed me most about your post is that you are a physics teacher on a supply contact!

    You could probably walk in to three or four jobs of you just applied.

    If you are still on supply, I would ask your agency what your notice period is and start job hunting immediately!
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  15. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    I agree with all the posts, but especially post number 3.

    Go and don't look back.
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  16. Deirds

    Deirds Senior commenter

    There comes a point when a school should appoint you.

    If they keep messing you about and you stay they will draw the conclusion that you won't go, so they don't need to make you permanent..

    You're a Physics teacher - apply for lots of science Jobs.
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