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can anyone advise? Dominie?

Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by Si N. Tiffick, Mar 13, 2011.

  1. Si N. Tiffick

    Si N. Tiffick Occasional commenter

    I wonder if anyone can advise (esp Dominie?) on the following. Until recently, supply teachers in the 2 authorities I work in have bene paid 2.8 hours for an afternoon, and 7 hours for a full day. This session, however, I've had to fight with secretaries who insist that we should be paid for contact time only i.e. 2 hours for an afternoon, or 5 hours for a full day. To my knowledge our terms of service haven't yet been changed but schools are insisting they have. Can anyone point me to where in the SNCT docs it tells me what I should be paid for part days on supply? It seems to me that since the SNCT rules apply specifically to all teachers, part time or not, we should be paid for 7 hours a day and pro rata within that.
    I've posted this on Opinion as well as Pay and Conditions to get max traffic.
     
  2. Si N. Tiffick

    Si N. Tiffick Occasional commenter

    I wonder if anyone can advise (esp Dominie?) on the following. Until recently, supply teachers in the 2 authorities I work in have bene paid 2.8 hours for an afternoon, and 7 hours for a full day. This session, however, I've had to fight with secretaries who insist that we should be paid for contact time only i.e. 2 hours for an afternoon, or 5 hours for a full day. To my knowledge our terms of service haven't yet been changed but schools are insisting they have. Can anyone point me to where in the SNCT docs it tells me what I should be paid for part days on supply? It seems to me that since the SNCT rules apply specifically to all teachers, part time or not, we should be paid for 7 hours a day and pro rata within that.
    I've posted this on Opinion as well as Pay and Conditions to get max traffic.
     
  3. I encountered this when I started on supply six years ago. One school in particular, at the HT's direction, stuck rigidly to the five hour day for supply teachers - regardless of hours actually worked. Unfortunately, I had done approximately two weeks work there before finding this out the hard way - checking my payslip. Two weeks of marking/setting up for the next day etc, staying until 5:00 - 5:30 each day, I might add.
    I realised it wasn't worth quibbling as this was accepted by other supply teachers as the norm - even down to not being paid for time that a specialist teacher had the class during the day. I never said anything to the HT - until she queried why I had taken to leaving with the kids at 3:05 & not marking etc.
    I simply told her that she couldn't have it both ways. I was quite happy to be paid for a five hour day if that was all the time I spent there, but any other arrangement would mean that I wouldn't accept work there. I guess though, that in these days of over-supply, that wouldn't be a good idea.
     
  4. misterroy

    misterroy New commenter

    I went to a weding a couple of years back, I had to take the afternoon off, unpaid. The reduction in my wages was 1/2 a day, where I thought 1/3 was fair.
     
  5. Si N. Tiffick

    Si N. Tiffick Occasional commenter

    bump- Dominie?
     
  6. Dominie

    Dominie New commenter

    Sorry. I;m on the wagon re giving specific advice. Check with your union. www.ssta.org.uk if you're a secondary teacher.
     
  7. Si N. Tiffick

    Si N. Tiffick Occasional commenter

    OK, fair enough. Contacted my union already- less than useless. They said there shouldn't be a disparity between schools in the authority but weren't able to advise what we should be paid.
     
  8. Dominie

    Dominie New commenter

    You're in the wrong union. See above re SSTA
     
  9. Si N. Tiffick

    Si N. Tiffick Occasional commenter

    Unfortunately, I'm Primary. But I have been looking at literature from other unions and have voted for another local rep for the union I am in at the mo, as the current rep is a real chocolate teapot, IMO.
     

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